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I think both of you are right. I think a game can recover from a bad launch but it still does ding the company when there is a bad launch and it still does hurt overall sales.

I personally was unaware they went woke.  I am sorry to hear that.  That does not bode well for their future or Witcher 4.

Firstly, please realize we are just conversating here about a fun topic.  I am not trying to insult or offend.  This is discussion, not an argument.

Now, everything you say is true IF we are talking ONLY about public perception.  However, I think there is more to the story than that and to only speak of initial impressions is to sell something short.  But you are correct in that many folks don’t go beyond that but I firmly believe that is a mistake.

I got to have a lot of fun playing CP 2077 because I looked beyond first impressions.  Many will miss out because they chose to only look at the launch.

In the end though I think one of your thoughts is on point.  Will it sink them if Witcher launches poorly?  Not totally but it will indeed harm them.  Let’s hope there is no subterfuge on this one and comes off ok.

You went from over the top to hyperbolic.

What?

How?

I’m talking honest logic here and total facts that you have only added to, because I didn’t even go that far in my point.

It’s not over the top to want something to be perfect. It’s called having high expectations. Is that always a good thing, no, but if you have high expectations and whomever you are dealing with under promises and over delivers, then you get what you were hoping for because it will then be more than you told to expect. Is it all perception, sure, but there is nothing over the top wanting the best, asking for the best, then getting something that feels the best if the company didn’t pretend it was going to be something else.

See No Man’s Sky. Doesn’t matter if they rebooted the game, it never recovered. Everyone will forever hate Hello Games for the lies.

Good for you for waiting to get CP 2077. You didn’t waste your money. Doesn’t change the FACT that no one talks about CP 2077 or is excited for more with possibly a small collective of diehards who were either always sold at the beginning or came in late like yourself and decided to go for the ride. 2077 will never shake its label. Don’t pretend otherwise.

You yourself just said that CDPR over promised and under delivered at launch, therefore, they screwed up. How is anything I said hyperbolic, which it isn’t, when you totally proved my point yourself?

CDPR had a great reputation, and it is only because of the past that people will still give them another chance. But they will likely only get that one more chance if they screw people over on Witcher 4.

Because of CP 2077 Witcher 4 unfortunately must live up to unreasonable expectations of perfection, which is why I said it has to be perfect, because there is no room for error. No one is going to white knight for CDPR anymore, and the slightest thing wrong people, right or wrong, will savage Witcher 4 because of their feeling wronged with CP 2077. Again, is that fair or right? Of course not, but people have the right to their emotions, desires, and expectations, and CDPR has only themselves to blame for this situation.

Why do you think they are going with Unreal 5? A reliable engine, by all accounts. If they at least are using an engine that will work, they can count on the game not falling apart.

@Vknid I obviously cannot comment on whether or not CP 2077 is a good game, because I haven’t played it. But in the end, I think it’s final quality is irrelevant to my point, because we live in a world of first impressions. Dragon Age 2 ended up being a good game, but it is forever tarnished and shat upon for its poor launch. CP 2077 as a game has been pretty much memory holed at this point, but not its crap launch.

Witcher 4 has to hit every mark on launch, because right now CDPR has the label of crummy launches in this current gen of gaming. They need to prove they can still get it right from the start. So no, I don’t think I’m over the top in saying the game needs to be perfect at launch, because CDPR’s image as a dev right now is crap. They have no room for error. If they screw up Witcher 4, they are done.

I think calling for something to be perfect is over the top because it is an unattainable goal.

Witcher 3 was an awesome game, so is Cyberpunk.  Now clearly they botched the release of Cyberpunk but it ended up to be a great game.  Although I love a good game story more than anything else so I might be biased.

Just for laughs. Thought Roas might get a chuckle.

full article at link. ONly posting intro and end.

https://winteriscoming.net/2022/01/02/why-the-wheel-of-time-succeeds-as-an-adaptation-and-the-witcher-fails/

Not all adaptations are created equal. For every Game of Thrones, which translated its source material fairly faithfully (until it ran out), there are legions of adaptations like The Golden Compass or The Legend of Earthsea, where the soul of the original work has been sucked out, not to mention groan-worthy cash grabs like The Hobbit trilogy.

Since the success of HBO’s fantasy phenomenon, we’ve seen a swell of companies adapting fantasy and science fiction stories that they might never have had the daring to before. At the end of 2021, two big ones dominated the conversation: Amazon’s The Wheel of Time, based on the 15-book series by Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson; and the second season of Netflix’s The Witcher, based on the bestselling short stories and novels by Andrzej Sapkowski. While both adaptations include large changes from their respective source books, one managed it far more successfully. We’re here today to discuss why.

A note before we begin: Opinions and tastes are subjective, especially with reviews like this. Both of these shows have done things that some fans have liked and others have loathed. I’m not here to try and convince you that you should or shouldn’t like a show; enjoy what you enjoy. What I am going to do is dissect how these shows are in conversation with their source material.

With that out of the way, let’s talk about why The Wheel of Time succeeds as an adaptation while The Witcher fails. Of course, you should be warned that there will be SPOILERS for both shows as well as their respective book series below.

Blight and cutting out two of the Forsaken. But again, they were mostly understandable since the show is playing up the ensemble nature of the story. The first book, The Eye of the World, focuses extremely heavily on Rand’s point of view, while the rest of the series is told from many perspectives. The show made the conscious decision to be an ensemble piece from the get-go, to give viewers a more honest idea of what to expect from the show overall.

In conclusion, it feels an awful lot like the changes and choices made by The Wheel of Time team were done with a lot of care and reverence for the source material. There was never a feeling that they were changing things for the hell of it, but because they were doing the best they could with the medium in which they were working.

Sometimes, the changes even ended up working out better for the story, as with the mystery over who the Dragon Reborn was. This was something the show played way up, and it worked really well. In the books it’s far more obvious that it’s Rand, since we spent more time with him. Here, first-time viewers could plausibly be in suspense.

There’s still a sense that The Wheel of Time is finding its footing…but to my mind it has never been a question that the show is trying really hard to do its best by Robert Jordan’s story.

I binged the 2nd season last night and I liked it a lot. The only issues that I really had was with the last 2 episodes. Maybe I’m the only one or I’m just going crazy, but it seems like the camera quality dipped or it just didn’t feel polished.

I’m not gonna pretend that I’m well versed in the Witcher series, whether books or games, but I’ve read some of the books and played a bit of the games. The series is based off of the books, correct? I did recognize a few nods to the games in there though.

I have watched the first two episodes of season two and have enjoyed it. “shrug”. I really liked the tragedy of the cursed man. I know people like Az have bashed it on Friday Night Tights, but I am having a good time so far.

I agree for the most part with what you are saying. I don’t quite understand Az’s rage last night. I’m 6 episodes in, and while I see some of what he’s talking about, I don’t see it on the levels to enrage him. Then again, I’m a borderline normie when it comes to the Witcher having only played the first game, while Az I believe is a more hardcore game fan, so he may see problems I do not.

As a preview to my review video that will probably happen tomorrow, right now the biggest sins of the show as I see it are 1) anything not involving Geralt and Ciri is boring…really boring, 2) still not enough monster killing, 3) still not enough Cavill/Geralt as there should be, 4) pacing and narrative is kinda a mess in the first half of the season, 5) everything surrounding the elves feels agendaish to me.

I’ll of course go into more detail in my review, but over all I don’t hate it, but I wish I liked it more, and I understand already why I don’t like it more.