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The moderators already said openly that they were only going to fact check Trump and not Kamala.
The more you lie the more you get fact checked :) Trump was spewing straight up lies, got corrected and people get mad. There were also instances where his lies didn’t get fact checked. For example, Trump seems to have no clue how tariffs work, which is pretty scary considering he is supposed to be a presidential candidate. Trump believes tariffs are applied on the exporter rather than the importer. Also. Trump was given the final word on every single topic, thus having more time to speak but he just fumbled and rambled.
People in Ohio say Haitian drivers crash so many cars that insurance rates for Americans have tripled there. Media lies and covers up and then, people cite the media as if there is credibility there.
This is just an anecdotal fallacy. It’s like saying the woke fake media and doctors say being fat and smoking leads to shorter lifespan, but my friend told me his classmate’s grandpa lived until 90 and was a fat smoker, so that must be the truth. Do you believe the earth is round or flat? Media says it’s round but it sure looks and feels flat.
Regarding the insurance, what is your evidence other than “I heard from my friend that some people said it”? Where did you get your data? If you claim they have tripled, you must have comparative data. Tripled compared to when? If you look at the statistics from Ohio State Highway Patrol, crashes have been quite steadily gone down in the past 5 years:
Haiti has an over 90% majority of christianity, so applying the voodoo stuff with such a broad brush on Haitians is just ignorant.
According to the media, the Haitian crime is all fake and all these actual people at councils are all just props and liars.
According to who is it true?
Yeah, it’s the TV media that is real and not your neighbors.
Then do you think Trump’s answer to getting fact checked in the debate was unreasonable? His answer was “well that’s what they say on TV”.
Also, if your neighbors claim MAGA people are systematically targeting Haitian babies and eating them, would you believe that? It has to be true then, if some random people on the streets claim it is.
And final question: do you believe it is okay to send bomb threat schools with Haitian children?
I just find it astonishing that Trump’s irresponsible rhetoric and lies put people in a marginalized community at risk and being targeted by brainwashed losers, and he will never be held accountable by people on the right. Whatever god emperor Trump says has to be the truth. This proves that he can just wing it and say whatever comes to mind about some random community eating pets or drinking baby blood and the next day his cult followers are already harrassing and sending threats. Unbelievable.
Want to make it clear that I have all the respect in the world for Styx. He was the leader in Alt Tech. If there was one guy who ushered in decentralized streaming, it was him.
It’s just become almost normie and blase’ the things people talk about. One reason I like Ryan, GnG, Jermy, Gary, Adam, etc. is that they really punch feedback and take it to the topic and are relentless roasters.
I feel there are too many major scandals that are not reviewed and repeated like the nerds do, they hit it every day, multiple times.When Kamala says the wants to move forward, well, she’s going the wrong way. Wars all over, Billions of dollars flying outta here, Haitians and Venezuelans getting stipends, crumbling infrastructure, homelessness, it’s not serious that she’s about YOU, the person at home. I see nurses and doctors in tears, as they both worked and end up DINKs, dual income No kids, while we have a dysgenic breeding program of state funded, subsidized urban sprawl. It is also like this in France which sparked the Yellow Vest protests, as taxes go up, but all the admissions, jobs and benefits go the people who never paid into and never made deposits. I see no point in this system continuing.
I’m grateful for anyone who roasts the stars and celebrities and entertainers. It’s what is missing. People act and pretend like things are good when they are not. The cam whores all make excuses for these people in authority that rip us off and lie. I look for people who dgaf and speak truth and actually lose friends over it. The thing is, it seems futile because people are in love with the illusion. The images they see on screens of pretty people saying pretty lines. Maybe it will be a sign once media figures and famous get jeered in public for being distractors for those sweeping scandals under the rug. Some of my favorite people are those who go to council meetings and just sound off plainly, much like those in Ohio did. What? Is David Muir gonna tell me they were crisis actors?
Speculation is what the public is left with when the media does not do it’s job and has a gas-lighting agenda.
You can tell by appearance and performance. It’s like watching handicapped people now struggle with these gender definitions and pronouns. It’s ridiculous and embarrassing. I pretty much stay away from creeps and weirdos.
I don’t generally like to talk about drama regarding people’s personal lives, especially when there’s family involved. But this situation is kinda personal to me as someone who’s worked in the gaming industry and been surrounded by these viscous cancel culture predators for the better part of a decade.
I believe people are underestimating how petty and vile the subversives are who take over places like twitter and various other companies affiliated with gaming.
My blood boiled reading Doctor Disrespect’s tweet. These people will believe ANYTHING that makes their “enemies” look bad. And over enough years and with a game of telephone the lies and enough sources will be enough to convince everyone of the most vile misdeeds even with no evidence. Anything is possible with these people, there is no low they will not stoop to. They could have hacked chat servers, they could have gathered Doc’s log in info and set this up, they could have gone undercover and slowly gathered Docs attention and waited till he was tipsy to try to get him to say something he would regret.
There are a MYRIAD of underhanded things that these shit heads could have been in an attempt to destroy the Doc. Twitch paid out the Doc, not the other way around. That is key, you have to keep that in mind.
So imagine you’re Doctor Disrespect, you’ve been fucked over, you got cashed out, but you still know full well these underhanded shits are out there just waiting in the wings. What’s your play?
Radio silence. Don’t give them the drama and fame they desperately crave for being the ones who took down the top red blooded streamer in gaming. Obviously for the money too, but living well is the best revenge.
But they couldn’t help themselves, and they pushed and they pushed and eventually it bubbles over, they get their self affirmed lies out there. ZERO EVIDENCE STILL.
What’s your play? At this point you WANT them to attack you, at this point you WANT to display mass financial losses, you WANT to look troubled, you WANT streams leaked of you having your life destroyed by this fuck heads. You WANT your business partners to say you can no longer work with them, that you’re a liability now because of your damaged reputation. You WANT to leave little edits and nuggets of info that might SUGGEST but not confirm anything wrong was done. Give them the rope to hang themselves.
Everyone else thinks Doc is going down, and maybe he is, maybe this is all delusional craziness because I’m so sick of this same destructive scenario playing out time and again….
It could go either way, I don’t know any more than you guys, but we’re watching Docs life implode right now as he’s wretched from everything due to these fucking scumbags. And guess who’s damages are going up if and when he decides to come after these scum pieces of shit who so nonchalantly came to destroy his life…
It’s hard to imagine being so petty, that there are so many people of influence with real power and their hands on the levers of our digital lives, but they’re everywhere. Especially in the gaming space.
Regardless of what happens, this has been a tragic situation. Always losing a bit of faith in so many people when you see how easily people will believe others are monsters even without a single shred of evidence. You see these mobs form in real-time as everyone buys into the big lies and the half truths that start to spiral out of control.
I hope he didn’t do anything terrible, or bad, or even just “naughty”, he’s a married man with a daughter on the world stage. If he was going after young girls, he’s going to have to face that. But at the same time, I really just don’t want to see the mob score a win and have their terrible assumptions and cancel tactics get them another scalp. The Doc kinda represents all us neckbeards and we’ve been through a lot, hoping this plays out well for the true geeks and gamers, and Doc’s always been a stand up guy from everything I’ve seen. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see. Seems like this is going to go hard one way or the other. Total vindication, or an abject crash and burn, not a lot of middle ground with accusations like this, nor should there be.
Damn, the more I think about this, the more I’m thinking he’s just trying to avoid the subject because he’s guilty. But then I get to thinking, if he WAS guilty Twitch or one of their employees would have leaked this stuff.
Eh maybe we should just shut up and let this unfold as it will. Just a real bummer of a story.
Edit: coming to terms with this. What made this story so hard to follow was how slowly it unfolded. You really got invested in one side or another with all the lack of info. You either think he was innocent, or a victim of all this nonesense.
Our own biases are going to affect how we perceive things. If we just blindly support or always give people the benefit of the doubt we’re no better than anyone else and petty tribalists. It’s looking more and more likely the Doc did do something heinous made even worse by recently cheating on his wife on the world stage.
Feel silly making this post at this point. There’s a lot of good things going on in the world as of late, but no matter how much things turn around people will be people, douchebags will be douchebags. I wasn’t even a viewer of this guy, I really feel bad for his loyal following who stuck with him all these years who gave him the benefit of the doubt. If it’s revealed he is at fault, and it’s looking more and more like he is, you have to think what a scumbag for exploiting his loyal fans and hiding the truth from them to say nothing of what he’s put his family through publicly and privately.
I’ll end this awkward post by posting some cultural eye bleach. At least we can all sleep easy taking a side on The Acolyte which is terrible, subversive garbage made by the personal assistant to Harvey Weinstein:
I have been digging into food for years. I have formulated my own ideas based on data and ACTUAL common sense or what was. I find that the more time that goes on, the more my thoughts on food are proven correct and becoming more open.
In essence, most of what we think we know is either just wrong, or outright lies.
To show how extreme this has become, look at this “doctor” paid by big pharma tell you that obesity is not your fault and has little to do with that you eat.
Now listen to people discuss why the things we eat are very bad for you. And you might ask why would that be the case? Because it creates a cycle of profit between companies making money off selling you cheap poison and the medicine to supposedly help the sickness from the cheap poison in a cycle that does not end until you die from both.
Pressed for time. I don’t think anyone hates your guts at all. The days of compliant conformity are over because all of us were raised in that, well behaved and betrayed by all institutions: corporate, academic, politcal, etc. Ethan actually gave good feedback on his last stream, according to the comments section, trying to help out Yaira.
You have skills. SeaCrit is fun. A little buggy, but I liked it. Wish more people would play it. I think they’d enjoy it. I’m not a gamer, so I got a kick out of it, swimming around and flipping and charging and bouncing above the water.
As for quality content, I am somewhat satisfied with them just ripping on Hollywood. There is no longer any escape from woke. I’ve tuned out all entertainment, but just got into a show about Exorcists called “Evil” with the actor who played Luke Cage. It’s a good show, but woke, as they demonized 8chan and there are a lot of very typical woke political messages in it, which is too bad. So, the fans have replaced Hollywood for me, but the gatekeeping comment bothers me a bit because we all know how the Hegelians like to lead all sides of movements and arguments. All you can do is kind of make your case about things. One thing is for sure, TV no longer dictates. In fact, I avoid it. Best advice ever from the failed Doctor Who was “Go Touch Grass,” so I am doing that. Legs getting stronger from running on the grass and the jab is poppin.
Doctor Who and Star Wars ruined. The market and ratings have decided and yet, they do not matter, do they? Another lie about how things work.
This is grooming behavior on the public. The public rejected it, yet they still advance it. Harassment is what it really is.
“Gender” was used to mean sex at it’s origin. Further used to describe the male or female of words. I believe it was not until the 60’s it began to be used differently and then got twisted over time to loosely use it the way you are describing. I reject propaganda words. The way you use it, it’s a propaganda word used to inject an assumption.
actually the distinction between sex and gender goes at least to the 1930’s. But yes, humanity learns new things as we proceed. Like the example you used, not long ago did humanity believe lobotomy was useful.
Understand what you just said. “gender is the culturally shaped expression of sexual difference”. So going with what you said, the root of gender is sex.
Yes, obviously gender is based on sex. Gender is what we as a society perceive to be a bart of being of one sex. A social construct.
I’ll give you an example from Persona 3 Reload as I just played it and is a recent example of what I am demonstrating:
This character is called Aigis, she is an android. She has no female biology, but people use female pronouns when talking about her. The reason she is not referred to as ”it” or ”they/them”, is because while she doesn’t have a sex, her gender is female. She has female hair, mascara, a skirt and her mannerisms are female. Do you agree it is okay to use female pronouns, or do you disagree?
Another example is women you see on the streets. You can’t see their chromosones, and I hope you don’t peek at their genitalia. But when you see a woman, you know it’s a woman from the clothing, makeup, hair length, mannerisms and so on. This is not biology, we make the judgement based on if they look and act like society thinks a woman should act and look like. Agree or disagree? And again, I am not saying these standards society has put is bad, I prefer feminine women over masculine women, but I am saying that we judge people on basis of gender and not sex.
Now, to bridge the gap and find more common ground between us, I do not think trans women is the same as ”regular” women (I avoid using the correct three letter term starting with ”C” because I know it seems to be a boogeyman term on this forum). Philosophically, it would create an awkward inconsistency because if trans women were the same as ”regular” women, there would be an issue of well why wouldn’t you wanna marry a trans woman if they are the same as other women, and suddenly 99% of the population is transphobic.
You are right. “pronoun” is not in the bill. But you know what is? “gender expression” You know what is a form of gender expression? Pronouns. And if you look at some of the cases already brought forward, the claims involve against the defendant include using the wrong pronouns.
I would like to see some of these cases, I found one where the issue was not using wrong pronouns but a father violating court orders by leaking personal information about his trans daughter when he was ordered not to.
ButI agree, using wrong pronouns should not be sufficient. If pronouns are intentionally used incorrectly as a way to harrass or bully then it’s understandable.
I proposed no solutions. I mentioned that actual respect is not going along with the delusion but speaking to reality.
Got it, my bad. Then I believe we agree that best solution for gender dysphoria is transitioning. More common ground.
You are conflating again. We were talking about children. Not adults. Adults can do what they want although I believe ,like it used to be, you had to go through a great deal of mental examination and therapy before a doctor would agree to such a surgery. And you assertion that changing your parts solves anything is also incorrect.
Based. But I don’t think I am wrong in saying transitioning helps people suffering from gender dysphoria, all studies show positive reception and extremely rate of regret. If transitioning makes it easier for you to live your life then I see it as a win.
Stop playing word games and moving the goal posts. I said it was being pushed and attempts were being made to normalize it. I did not give additional modifiers like “successful”.
I added successful because I think that is the most important part. We can’t magically make all pedophiles stop pushing it, we can try sure by therapy but that would require identifying them first, and pedophiles not acting according to their desires is hard to identify. As long as we have guard rails and no progress is made successfully, it’s all that matters.
Why do you incessantly compare drag queens to priests? Do you think I am going to defend one type of pedophile and not another? No. As I mentioned before the Priest to me is a far worse offender.
No I do not, I am not using whataboutism about priests. I am using priests as an example of not engaging in linking something as a whole to pedophilia. Pedophilia is not a part of drag or transgenders, just as pedophilia is not a part of priests. You should be able to separate them.
Not really, no they have not. More propaganda. People have dressed as the opposite sex for a long time and for many different reasons. Simply putting on a dress is not drag. Drag is inherently sexual because it is about sex
People dressing as the opposite sex as a form of entertainment literally is textbook drag. Do you believe it only is drag when you start whipping genitalia out or something? Drag has always been an entertainment form of dressing as the opposite sex. There are different forms of drag, and one form of drag is making it sexual. But going on stage dressed as a woman and making jokes about being a woman is also drag. You can just look up and read any paper on history of drag, just saying ”I disagree, propaganda” is not an argument.
The fact you compared drag to Priests and religion makes me want to vomit. That’s an absolutely disgusting comparison.
I mean if you expand my comparison to religion as a whole then it gets pretty rough as islam is based on Prophet Muhammad who had sex with Aisha, his 9 year old wife. And age of consent happens to be quite low in these countries.
Does that matter? How kids is it OK to mutilate in your mind?
not really, I was just curious when you said it happens in large numbers, as I want to make sure you are being good faith and not exaggerating things as I do not fact check everything you say because I want to maintain charitable and able to take your words for granted, as opposed to comicsgate, as I now know I have to look up literally anything he says because of how much straight up false things he says.
And for your information lots of folks talk about circumcision but it’s not a criical topic because no once forces you to do it or cancels you for it. There are not laws being written about circumcision.
no one cancels you for not being trans. But do you believe making surgery on a child’s genitals is okay if it doesn’t sterilize you? I would argue that circumcision brings no benefit and it is relevant as it happens to way more children than transitioning.
So do you lock your answer that surgery on a child’s genitals is okay as long as it doesn’t sterilize the child? Be careful with your answer.
Again, a point we agree on. But you realize you even saying that by many measures makes you “transphobic”? It’s no longer seen socially as a sickness. Why would it? It’s simply a feeling now.
I don’t care what people think, people on the right think I am a blue haired radical socialist leftist and actual leftists think I am a nazi because I’m not pro socialism. I don’t see myself as transphobic because I want trans people to have equal rights and be treated as normal members of societies and not get demonized as child grooming vampires, I just believe it would safe a lot of unnecessary hassle if people didn’t need to transition but could have their dysphoria cured without it.
Also, not all trans people have dysphoria, as they can function in soeicety without transitioning, but do it because they feel better that way. Just like not all fat people have body dysmorphia but they might feel more comfortable not being fat and decide to workout.
Go listen to him talk for 2 hours about how that has destroyed him. Go watch it and come back and tell me if you consider that compassion or a successful solution. Listen to a man cry while he tells you “I miss my penis”. Then when done, think about that in terms of a 15yr old.
sure, some people regret it. But the regret rate is around 0.5%, so bringing up single instances will not affect my position.
I agree, if we talk about sex we are talking biology. Genitals and chromosomes etc. You can look up gender in dictionaries, where it says something like ”Sex is the biological category, whereas gender is the culturally shaped expression of sexual difference: the masculine way in which men should behave and the feminine way in which women should behave”.
Great! We agree that sex is easily definable and unchangeable.
“Gender” was used to mean sex at it’s origin. Further used to describe the male or female of words. I believe it was not until the 60’s it began to be used differently and then got twisted over time to loosely use it the way you are describing. I reject propaganda words. The way you use it, it’s a propaganda word used to inject an assumption.
And you are describing EXACTLY what I am talking about here. Understand what you just said. “gender is the culturally shaped expression of sexual difference”. So going with what you said, the root of gender is sex. And as we agreed, sex is easily definable and unchangeable. Since you agree sex and gender are linked, then it reasons to stand they are both not “fluid”.
so do you reject the notion that people should not be discriminated or bullied due to religion for example at school?
I reject the notion bullying (which is not a crime nor should it be) and discrimination (somewhat nebulous term but) does not need additional identifiers. If it is considered bad or illegal, than it should not matter why, just that it happened. Whether the discrimination happened because you like cheese or are black, makes no difference and there is no severity difference between the situations because all that mattered is it happened. This is like “lynching laws”. It’s already illegal. “hate crime”. If it’s a crime, already illegal.
Writing laws for things already illegal is a game show for politicians.
So there is nothing about using wrong pronouns, as pronouns are not even mentioned once in the entire bill. It specifically is that if there is proof of discrimination at the work force due to a person’s gender, they can be held responsible. I don’t know about you but I find discrimination pretty cringe.
You are right. “pronoun” is not in the bill. But you know what is? “gender expression” You know what is a form of gender expression? Pronouns. And if you look at some of the cases already brought forward, the claims involve against the defendant include using the wrong pronouns.
As far as I know, the Bill C-16 does not mean a person gets legally punished for using wrong pronouns
Well then you need to research more.
would like to correct you in this regard, people with gender dysphoria or who want to transition do not believe they are the opposite sex,
You might want to diversify your news sources. In the current iteration of “trans” you are comically incorrect. 10+ years ago that statement might have been correct. It’s not even close now. Sure, not everyone thinks that and you could point out the difference between actual dysphoria and feeling different that day but these things are not seen as the same. If this was not the case there would not be men winning women’s sports.
Regarding people with gender dysphoria, your solution of ”just encourage them to accept who they are biologically
I proposed no solutions. I mentioned that actual respect is not going along with the delusion but speaking to reality.
I would much rather see a trans person than a dead person
If they don’t get treatment, it can lead to cases where they can not function in society because of it, and even depression and suicide.
You believe in lies, or you are a liar. Pick one.
That’s the bullcrap thing they tell parents. Suicide is a legit concern due to the mental disorder. So regardless of what you lop off it’s a symptom.
And if you come up with a way to effectively and routinely cure people’s gender dysphoria
That’s an unrealistic expectation. No mental disorders that I am aware of have any “cures”. You can make it better. You can learn to cope. You don’t erase it.
But right now, the only way is transitioning and I personally don’t mind trans people,
You are conflating again. We were talking about children. Not adults. Adults can do what they want although I believe ,like it used to be, you had to go through a great deal of mental examination and therapy before a doctor would agree to such a surgery. And you assertion that changing your parts solves anything is also incorrect. You do realize the surgeries are barbaric right? You realize that not only do you NOT get a functional (or recognizable) organ, they remove your actual functioning organs. Again, that is not compassion.
Can you elaborate?
You would only need to “affirm” something you question. The question itself is illogical. If the idea is that your genitalia makes you your sex (gender,/sex same thing) , then you are your sex period. There is nothing to “affirm”. Thus, propaganda phrase baking in the assumption that the question is valid. It is not.
I don’t see it being successfully pushed and normalized.
Stop playing word games and moving the goal posts. I said it was being pushed and attempts were being made to normalize it. I did not give additional modifiers like “successful”. The link does not work because I boke it on purpose I did not want it to display. Exchange “[DOT]” for “.”
I utilize it in a similar way you utilize transgenderism.
No, no you don’t and I am actually insulted at this point you would use such a lazy tactic.
I don’t know, how many? And how many priests have?
Why do you incessantly compare drag queens to priests? Do you think I am going to defend one type of pedophile and not another? No. As I mentioned before the Priest to me is a far worse offender.
People have been doing drag for hundreds of years, and drag is not inherently sexual, just like religion or being a priest isn’t. Drag is just the concept of people dressing in a comically stereotyping way as the opposite gender to make jokes about said gender
Not really, no they have not. More propaganda. People have dressed as the opposite sex for a long time and for many different reasons. Simply putting on a dress is not drag. Drag is inherently sexual because it is about sex. It is a man dressed and acting as a cartoon like caricature of a woman. The very premise of drag is sexual. Does that mean it has to be people having sex on stage? No, but that is not the only definition of sexual.
The fact you compared drag to Priests and religion makes me want to vomit. That’s an absolutely disgusting comparison.
No drag is not just mocking the opposite gender. Progressive definitions morph to suit the agenda. You can buy into that, I will not.
And again, we are talking kids here. No one cares or cared about drag queens with adults. In fact drag queens for decades have been lauded as something fun and interesting especially by straight women. No one cared. Until they came for the kids. Now we care. Watch the movie “The Birdcage” with Robin Williams. Drag Queens were shown as something fun and even cool. But you know what you did not see? Kids there. Now we have “drag kids” and some dancing on stage for adults doing simulated stripping and Drag Queens all around kids and often doing overt sexual things.
how large numbers I wonder?
Does that matter? How kids is it OK to mutilate in your mind?
But I am curious, why aren’t people this loud fighting against circumcision or tonsil removal for minors?
Uhhh because neither destroys useful healthy organs? Neither sterilizes you? Neither is occurring outside of the choice of a parent? Neither is enforced by the state? Neither is part of an ideology being pushed from the top down? And for your information lots of folks talk about circumcision but it’s not a criical topic because no once forces you to do it or cancels you for it. There are not laws being written about circumcision.
Children with gender dysphoria is extremely rare.
Actual dysphoria yes. But no one uses that phrase anymore and it’s all referred to as trans and trans is now a feeling. And if we say you meant trans, then there are MANY of them.
Lobotomy destroys the brain without fixing anything, surgery doesn’t cause harm and has an extremely high success rate of combating gender dysphoria.
It does not destroy the brain, it harmed it. People still lived they were just very damaged people. And at the time, like we say with trans now, it was considered scientifically correct. Yes sexual surgery VERY MUCH DOES CAUSE HARM. You are removing healthy organs, this is the epitome of harm. It does not have a high a success rate and I am not sure anyone could prove something that subjective. And in our current context of kids, its very unsuccessful.
And like I said, if there is ever a medicine that gets rid of gender dysphoria without having any kind of transition, I am all for that.
Again, a point we agree on. But you realize you even saying that by many measures makes you “transphobic”? It’s no longer seen socially as a sickness. Why would it? It’s simply a feeling now. You can get hormones and other such things on 1 doctor visit now.
Go watch the interview Blair White did with a man who sadly calls himself “the thing”. Why? He wanted to be a woman. He was told he could be with surgery and hormones. Go listen to him talk for 2 hours about how that has destroyed him. Go watch it and come back and tell me if you consider that compassion or a successful solution. Listen to a man cry while he tells you “I miss my penis”. Then when done, think about that in terms of a 15yr old.
