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I thought I would chime in here on this topic because I know how many peoples out there truelly hate certainly Star Wars stuff and that is understandable indeed because I would honestly have to agree with some here and it is that I too think that certain Star Wars films could of been done much better,but clearly the writers they got were very Poor ones because they clearly failed to understand the storylines or the plots for that matter. NO doubt they weren’t Real Star Wars fans at all. I also wanted to comment on the tv shows that were made like the Mandalorian-Season 1-3, Obi Wan Kenobi, Andor, Book of Boba Fett and the Acolyte. Some of these shows were poorly done as well and if Disney had done a lot better with finding good writers & a good director as well,not some Crazy/Lesbo freak and her partner in crime Kathleen Kennedy and also the bad picks for actors & actresses because we all know they were just Nobodies that were hired/ brainwashed with the DEI virus and then let loose to run amuck.

@ Oldie_Wan_Kenobi @IllTemperedTuna
The majority of us on here have kept these forums civil and would like to keep it that way. The past few posts are going off the rails into not being uncivil and insulting, etc. “Go fuck yourself” is not the kind of “discussion” we want on here. Also generalizing nonsense with “you guys did this and that” when you don’t speak for everyone and the actions of a few or even one do not equate to “you guys”.

Either have a civil discussion, or DM the person and keep it to yourself. This isn’t high school.

Thank you.

Before I go ahead and state my favourite Star Wars character, just bear in mind that this is coming from someone who has only seen the movies and some of the shows. As of yet, I haven’t delved into the EU, but I shall do that shortly. I just thought I would make that clear.

Anakin Skywalker will always be the GOAT to me. I grew up with the prequels so I would always be watching Anakin as opposed to Luke etc. I love that we got to see the charismatic and joyful side of Anakin as opposed to just the brooding conflicted figure that we got later down the line. That aspect helped me to understand his downfall and made it more believable.

Honourable mentions include Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi. Man… Qui-Gon Jinn didn’t get enough screen time, yet he is still a LEGEND! I appreciated his unique perspective on the Jedi Order as that massively separated him from the rest of the other Jedi. If he hadn’t been written that way, I think he would have been forgotten after The Phantom Menace and would have come across as generic.

@Roas Well, you certainly are more optimistic than I am on that front. A multi-billion dollar company like Disney is going to have its fangs sunk in tight and is going to bleed Star Wars for every penny that it’s worth, and once there’s nothing left they’ll likely just lock it up in a vault, somewhere. Disney paid like, 4 billion or something to acquire Lucasfilm. They’re never going to let go something as big as Star Wars, not even if they were offered twice that amount. They’ll take it with them to the grave (so to speak). I’m in basic agreement with you that getting it out of Disney’s hands is the most ideal solution, I just don’t see it happening.

I probably sound very cynical: Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to put a dour on anyone’s spirits. I’m just stating the situation as I see it. Channels likes yours, I think, are important in some way to show there’s love and appreciation for the old EU, that they weren’t just a bunch of filler like Disney’s new canon. Who knows, maybe what you’re wishing for might happen sooner than we think (if at all): Kenobi was evidently supposed to be a movie, the fact that it was an episodic series instead shows Disney aren’t making as much money as they would like and aren’t willing to invest more than they have to. I don’t know where you go from there. You would think the recent cinematic failures would force Disney to reshuffle the entire Lucasfilm cabinet (and of course get rid of the current official “story group),” but they obviously don’t care and/or there be must some serious political/financial red tape we don’t know of to the point firing a certain someone would be a bigger headache than letting things stay as they are.

@Oldie_Wan_Kenobi

I hear you man.  I understand what you are saying.  I feel some of the same frustrations you do.  I just tend to believe you catch more flies with sugar vs. vinegar.

HOWEVER, I won’t begrudge you your way just because I have my own.

I have no doubt SuperSoynic_Speed is here mostly to just be a contrarian and to bust people’s chops.  And I do dislike his mocking tone and blatant condescension.  The same with Wisdom. BUT, this is the internet and it’s to be expected and just because we disagree does not mean we have to hate.

So telling them to F Off is just as bad as it’s more or less what they are doing just not in so many words.  This is not to say I disagree with all of what you are stating @Oldie_Wan_Kenobi, it’s the approach that I think is incorrect.

And no I have no idea what you have been through so I guess all that is easy for me to say but it’s my take on vitriol like that.

I just want everyone to place nice even if we don’t see eye to eye.  That used to be the norm and not the exception.  I miss those days.

I don’t think Leia knew Obi-Wan on a personal level.

To me, it was that she learned from her parents (and the secrets of being a diplomat and part of the rebellion) that General Obi-Wan Kenobi was still alive, and if at the worst time if she ever needed help, to try and contact him.

That was my impressions from the George Lucas’ Star Wars.

Kenobi never left Tatooine until R2 came to him with the recording in a New Hope.

Yoda never left Dagobah during his exile as well.

Kenobi (like Yoda) was training under Qui-Gon’s force ghost guidance.

So what these morons on doing under KK, is pure garbage, IMO.

As I said in Adams Live stream, Leia did know Ben. I will lay it out here as his chat was difficult. Sticking ONLY to Episode 4.

In the message inside R2 she refereed to him as “General Kenobi” His official Military title as well as his real name Obi-wan Kenobi, a familiarity can be implied by this. A person with no “familiar knowledge” of him but on a mission would have never said “Help me Obi-wan Kenobi your my only hope”  she would have continued with using the “Official and Formal title of “General Kenobi” she should have said “Help US General Kenobi your OUR only Hope”. This points to her being familiar with him.

But further evidence of her familiarity with him comes even on the Death Star, when Luke meets her, when she finds out Luke is there with Ben she again uses his Formal name, not his Rank.

Leia is a very seasoned diplomat a very intelligent leader of the rebellion and would not make such casual mistakes. If you have ever been around someone like that THEY DO NOT drop formalities of Military or Diplomatic decor. I had friends of my grandfather that MANY years removed from the service still called him Master Chief  or Chief, I watched him and his friends call retired Col, Sir or Colonel. It is not something you casually forget or fail to do. It is a respect given unless you are on a personal and familiar basis with the person.  Hell my sons friends when on leave with him dont call him Joe they call him Sarg.

This is something fans do not often think about, George would have he grew up around people, like that, Why she started off with the General Kenobi could been an oversight, but more likely as it was our first meeting with Ben, George wanted us to know he was once a General in the Army and man to be respected and admired. It is a quick way for Him <George> to let us know many things in that very first meeting. Heck that meeting set the stage for everything beyond that.

Think about it, in that short scene we learned:
1. Ben was a General in the Army

2. He was a Jedi Knight (Ben)

3. Who Leia was (to a degree)

4. Who Leias “father” was to her knowledge

5. Who lukes father was (from bens perspective)

6. About the Jedi Order and their duty

7. About the Death Star

8. Lukes father was a Jedi

9. Luke is a good pilot

10 about Light sabers

11. The force

11. Darkside of the force (briefly)

12. The rebellion against the empire

Think about it, in less than 4 minutes on screen we learned all that, George would not have been so careless, it was very much insinuated with just a little use of logic that Leia knew Ben on a personal level, one where she would be comfortable using his name and not title.

And those trying to explain away the bad writing/plot holes have come up with this:

Obi-Wan Kenobi Theory: Leia Didn’t Remember Ben Due to One Sinister Reason

The following contains spoilers for the first three episodes …

You have been warned.

One of the most intriguing topics fans are chattering about online as they dissect Obi-Wan Kenobi’s story is why Princess Leia didn’t remember him in Star Wars: A New Hope.

Because the writers of this show are stupid?

However, rather than be an oversight or plot hole, Leia might not have remembered old Ben for one sinister reason.

Ok, lets hear the next level of demonizing a fan favorite male character.

This has to do with Ben’s Jedi powers, namely the mind trick….

This would allow Ben the ability once more, but rather than control someone in a short burst of time to do something physically, like let him pass a checkpoint, Ben may turn it into a mind-wipe.

Oh goodie!  The jedi can force mind wipe someone now!

Granted, it’d be Obi-Wan crossing a major line…

Something those that hate canon (and the lack of source material) have no issues with doing.

Ultimately, there’s also another way of working around demonizing Obi-Wan. If he doubled up and mind-wiped this hunt from the Empire’s Inquisitors that he didn’t kill, as well as Vader, it would …

Make for an even BIGGER problem.

Reports/logs in the Empire would have to be altered, all the stormtroopers who worked with the Inquisitor’s would know someone had killed them, etc… you are talking of hundreds of people needing to be mind wiped.

Then, you have VADER.

To think Obi-Wan would be able to mind wipe Vader is stupid..  There is no way someone as powerful in the force would fall for a mind trick.

And even if it did work, how close would the two have to be for a mind wipe to work?

And if it did work, then why did the jedi not use it more often?

And why did Obi-Wan not use it on the Death Star, or use in when his use of the lightsaber drew attention when he was trying to get a ship to take him and Luke off Tatooine?

No, this show is bad writing, canon breaking, garbage.