CHINA VIRUS INFO and the shot.

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  • #216538
    Mustangride1
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      #216562

      Old news but glad you know of the REAL cures. The vaccine, on the other hand:

      The media wants to downplay and call it false information but they are the same ones pushing surgical mask rules and social-distancing unless it’s for their own benefit (i.e. Black Lives Matter). I won’t touch that vaccine at all. I’m nobody’s guinea pig or slave.

      #226011

      New York Times COVID-19 reporter doesn’t want to talk about ‘racist’ Wuhan lab theory

      You probably ought to discount all reporting done so far by New York Times COVID-19 reporter Apoorva Mandavilli, who showed Wednesday that she is too blinded by ideology to be trusted with the biggest health and science story of our lifetime.

      Anything by a leftist media is not to be trusted.  But what specifically did she do?

      The COVID-19 lab leak theory, which posits that the coronavirus escaped a research facility in Wuhan, China, has grown in credibility and prominence. Today, even the news organizations that rushed to condemn it last year as a conspiracy theory now concede that this is a credible possibility of how the outbreak started.

      As it was from the start.

      “Someday we will stop talking about the lab leak theory and maybe even admit its racist roots,” she said Wednesday in a since-deleted tweet. “But alas, that day is not yet here.”

      WTF?

      Talking about the source of this deadly pandemic is racists?  What a racist thing to say!

      Mandavilli is quite literally saying we should stop discussing how COVID-19 came about, even at the expense of the truth about why 3.5 million people died, because it has supposedly “racist roots.”

      How is it possible that a New York Times reporter, tasked with covering the pandemic, believes that pursuing the truth, including taking seriously an ever-more-plausible theory about a deadly virus’s origins, is “racist”?

      Because it hurts her feelings, I guess.

      Also, how is it more racist to suggest that COVID-19 came from a lab than to say that it came from a Chinese wet market, the competing (and increasingly implausible) theory? The unintentionally hilarious thing about dismissing the lab theory as “racist” is that the alternative theory is that the world got sick because Chinese people eat bats or pangolins or something else gross.

      But no! Don’t say it was created in a lab! That would be racist!

      The lack of logic from the activists pretending to be a reporter.

      Yet here she is, arguing that if there is a possibility that the truth is “racist,” then we shouldn’t seek it.

      So we should not look into slavery, as it is ‘racist’?

      So we should not look into having a secure national border, as it is “racist”?

      So we should not listen to you, as you are clearly a “racist” and most likely a Karen as well! ? !

      If you want to know how the corporate press missed the lab leak theory all last year, Mandavilli’s remarks explain it all. If the truth might turn out to be inconvenient, the journalists working for formerly trusted newspapers preemptively dismiss it as “debunked,” “dangerous,” and now even “racist,” and they think that’s healthy for “discourse.”

      As they have been doing for decades now.  Hunter’s laptop… inconvenient!  Antifa/BLM caused riots and loiting… “debunked” as it goes against their narrative.

      We knew this already, but to have someone else put it down into words is SOMETHING remarkable!

      #226020

      I’m pro-vaccination – heck, one of the lines of work that opens to me because of my education would relate to them. I’ll take one eventually, soon even, *if* my country allows the patients choice of which vaccine they take.

      There’s a lot of mess when it comes to the vaccines as we have them now, but there’s two quiet pieces of information that’s worth noting, and one big piece of information everyone should be aware of prior to their vaccination.

      The small things :

      – Much of the world seemed to give up on pursuing pharmacological treatment of this virus for some reason. As a result, many doctors all over the world are using medication that’s not technically ‘approved of’ for coronavirus to treat coronavirus. A large number of already existing brands of pharmaceuticals has been considered a valid to semi valid medication for coronavirus. Worldwide, apparently, those brands number in the hundreds. However, very few are actually ‘approved of’ anywhere.

      – While Astra-Zeneca has its blood coagulation rumors and Johnson & Johnson has its production issues, testing rumors, rumors of being a rip-off of the Russian vaccine and so forth… You needed to scour the internet yourselves to see the issues/early problems caused by Pfizer’s vaccine. No media that I know of anywhere picked it up, be it US or in my home country.

       

      The big thing :

      – Nearly a decade before COVID, Moderna has received a total of 2 billion dollars from investors for purposes of mRNA research in terms of delivering vaccination and for therapeutical usage (allowing the body to self-synthesize drug compounds rather than antigens to activate immune response). Over ten years, they attempted several projects, both for vaccination and drug delivery. Before 2020, out of those ten years worth of project, *not a single one* has been deemed sufficiently safe for usage to be produced and sold.

       

      Do I believe Covid is a scam? No.

      Do I believe it was released as a way of causing some desired effect in global politics? I don’t know, and I don’t think so, but in nearly every country there are groups who have used it to push a political narrative.

      Do I believe that each and every single Covid vaccine is crap? No.

      Do I feel lied to about how this would be the ‘globe-wide, unified effort to fight the pandemic?’ Yes.

      Do I think all or nearly all of the vaccines now developed are more risky than traditionally developed vaccines? Very likely. That’s why the system usually takes much longer, folks!

      Do I believe someone has a vested interest in making sure some of the products that could help fight the pandemic are kept quiet and some of them are presented as obviously worse alternatives? Sadly yes. Big money was on the table in the mRNA technology before this even started, let alone now. Big money that, should the vaccines not happen, would’ve been *completely wasted.*

       

      As excited as folks in my field were about the possibilities of this years ago, right now it’s still not trustworthy, so I’m going to wait until my government finally lets me choose to have a vector-based vaccine (right now that’s J&J, Astra-Zeneca and the russian Sputnik, thought I am not up to date with every vaccine being developed), sorry.

       

      #226023
      Mustangride1
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        I am not against a true “Vaccine” but what we have is not even close to it. There are way to many documented cases of negative side affects, and people getting covid even after being fully vaccinated and still taking the mask and distancing precautions.  The news does NOT report it and social media squashes it to the best of their abilities.

        If this was a “true vaccine” then it would be on the CDC List you would think. But here is the CDC list <did post it on another thread> https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/vaccines-age.html

        Now more and more it is looking like this is going to be exposed as a “at minimum lab created possibly bio-weapon research” Many people speculated this last year but again squashed by Press, Politicians and Social Media.

        Dr. Fauci and I use the term “Dr” very loosely  as he is more a beurocrat than a dr now. But this guy has been wrong at every turn and worse he was and has been the lead on HIV/AIDS since REAGAN was president. You want to trust him and his many failures that are on record. NO THANK YOU.

        For me, I will not be getting the “shot” I have never got the flu shot either and its suggested for everyone every year of their life. I have had a Certified flu 3 times in my 52 years and none in the last 10. With the amount of contacts I have had with people directly and indirectly and still have not got Covid (maybe had it last year but mild and before testing) along with not being in the HIGH RISK as I have no other underlying conditions and I am in good shape, I see no reason to get a experimental drug. So ya I will sit this one out till we know the truth about the shot.

        #226031

        They sorta did report it.

        The vaccine is only 80-95% effective (IIRC) to reduce the most severe effects of covid, but it DOES NOT 100% prevent one from getting covid.

        And I have read articles where people who HAD covid, got fully immunized (2 shots of vaccines) and STILL got covid a second time.

         

        They stories ARE out there, they just as buried deep.

        Heck, up here it was reported:

        …more than 2.5 million doses of vaccine. It has reported one fatality and tracked 385 “adverse events” experienced by people who got injections…

        #226220

        The fact the so called medical experts say you can get covid and your body may fight it off and then you can get infected again tells me it’s a man made bug. Also any vaccine of a virus has a weakened version of the virus so the human body can easily develop anti-bodies against it. That’s how vaccines have always worked. If people are getting sick, recover, then take the vaccine, get sick again that tells you the vaccine is fake and it’s not a natural virus.

        According to CNN over 2,500 Americans are dying every day from this thing. https://cnnphilippines.com/world/2021/1/5/covid19-united-states-deaths.html

        So where are the mass graves? CNN’s lie should mean almost 1.5 million people have died from this thing in the US alone. That’s hard to hide. After world war 2 it was very noticeable here in the States a lot of people were no longer present; even though the USA suffered less than 300,000 combat deaths during ww2.

        Midwin Charles, CNN Legal Contributor, Dies After Getting mRNA Vaccine

        Where I work the only deaths, 4, were out of the group that chose to take the covid test at work. Interesting. I’ve never been tested and I have never taken the vaccine. I’m fine. My employer is paying employees around $50 to get vaccinated. No thanks. You could offer me $10,000,000 and I wouldn’t take the “vaccine.” With all the “side effects” and death from the vaccine it’s obvious the only thing the covid vaccine vaccinates against is having a long life.

        Just a thought. The democrats say the earth is over populated. I wonder how the vaccine affects a person’s ability to reproduce? We may have to wait at maximum 10 years to see the awful effects of this fake vaccine on human civilization.

        #226260

        Just a thought. The democrats say the earth is over populated. I wonder how the vaccine affects a person’s ability to reproduce?

        Funny you mentioned that:

        Fact-checkers claim it’s false but I wouldn’t get a “cure” for something you could survive no problem unless you already have serious health problems.

        #227523

        Condoleezza Rice says public health officials made a ‘mistake’ in early dismissal of Wuhan lab leak theory

        Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said it was a “mistake” to nix the idea that the coronavirus could have come from a laboratory in Wuhan, China.

        WTF?  Someone in a once prominent role in a non-Trump administration is making a “debunked” theory credibility?

        Rice, on Sunday, said she felt more questions should have been asked about the idea of a lab leak, largely dismissed by officials and media outlets as a conspiracy theory, when the possibility was first raised in early 2020, when the virus made its outbreak in the United States.

        But that would have gone against the marxist/left agenda.

        Besides, if Trump said it, then it must be rediculed (thanks to their TDS – Trump degradgement syndrome.)

        Last month, President Joe Biden requested the intelligence community to increase its efforts to investigate the origins of COVID-19, giving officials 90 days to examine the possible origins of the virus, which has killed more than 3 million people worldwide.

        This after joe blo ordered the original/ongoing investigation into its origin was CANCELLED.

        Nice going Joe!

        Your ineptitude keeps adding more to your list of “accomplishment-less” administration.

        #227743

        Unlikely genome sequencing evidence that COVID-19 originally leaked from a lab, two U.S. experts say

        … COVID-19 has a genetic footprint that has never been seen before in a natural coronavirus and suggests the virus originated in a lab, say two U.S. experts.

        But the legacy media told us it without a doubt a NATURAL virus.

        Dr. Steven Quay and Richard Muller made the assertion Sunday in an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal and based it on the genomic sequencing patterns of COVID-19 and large discrepancies in its genetic diversity compared to the other coronaviruses responsible for SARS and MERS.

        There you go, bringing in scientific facts.

        The scientific evidence points to the conclusion that the virus was developed in a laboratory,” said Quay and Muller.

        Evidence!

        SARS and MERS both were naturally occurring and evolved as they spread across human populations, culminating in the most contagious form emerging, said Quay and Muller. In the case of COVID-19, the virus appeared in humans already in its most contagious form and no real adaptations occurred until the first variations were seen months later in England. Rapid optimization of COVID-19 is unprecedented and indicates a long period of adaptation predating public transmission, said Quay and Muller.

        So it was tampered with, not in nature naturally, but by a LAB.

        But didn’t that witch doctor fraud say for over a year now it WAS a natural animal-to-human virus, after constant email communications with the lab, and them thanking him for deflecting the blame from the most obvious source.

         

         

        #227745

        China Hits Back at Donald Trump’s Demand They Pay $10 Trillion for Causing Pandemic

        China has dismissed demands for it to make reparations for the coronavirus pandemic after former President Donald Trump suggested the country should pay the United States and the rest of the world $10 trillion.

        Not taking responsibility for the damage and harm you caused?  Where have I heard that excuse before?

        In a statement released on Thursday, June 3, Trump demanded that China compensate the world for causing the pandemic, which his administration had believed was more likely the result of a laboratory accident than a disease with natural origins.

        “China should pay Ten Trillion Dollars to America, and the World, for the death and destruction they have caused!” he wrote.

        As they should!

        Wang Wenbin, a spokesperson for China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, responded Monday by accusing the former president of trying to divert attention away from his administration’s own poor response to the outbreak in the U.S., which has claimed nearly 600,000 American lives to date.

        Firstly, the Trump administration acted to protect it’s citizens when the other side of the government was calling to keep the borders OPEN, and to stop trying to stop the spread of the virus to america.

        Secondly, they were calling, once the virus did hit america, that 2.2 Million Americans would die in the first year of the pandemic.  And yet, due to the quick response by the Trump administration, the numbers were were just over one-quarter what they expected/wanted.

        That facts so many of those deaths happened in places where governors where sending known sick people back into nursing homes to wipe out the senior populations IS a crime.

        “Now everyone, even the so-called ‘enemy,’ are beginning to say that President Trump was right about the China Virus coming from the Wuhan Lab,” Trump wrote. “The correspondence between Dr. Fauci and China speaks too loudly for anyone to ignore.”

        But they are still trying to play it down as a “nothing to see here”.

         

        #229046

        OH, and even the scientists wanted to not talk about the lab origin… for political reason!

        Scientist Waited to Legitimize Lab-Leak Theory Out of Fear She Would Be ‘Associated With Trump’

        Alina Chan and 18 fellow scientists published a letter in the journal Science last month demanding a thorough inquiry into the virus’s origin, including the possibility that the virus leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The document was one of the catalysts that helped reinvigorate debate around the lab-leak theory, which was dismissed for more than a year as a conspiracy theory by much of the mainstream press and censored as disinformation by social media giants.

        Why now?

        A scientist who recently endorsed the possibility that COVID-19 originated in a Chinese lab has revealed that she and some of her colleagues waited to legitimize the hypothesis until President Trump left office so as not to be “associated” with him.

        At the cost of how many lives?

        Chan told NBC that some scientists had apprehensions about publicly discussing the lab leak possibility out of concern that their statements would be manipulated to suggest they were endorsing “racist” language about COVID’s origins in China — an apparent reference to Trump’s use of the phrase “Wuhan virus.”

        Which was being mentioned by the agenda driven legacy media as the China Virus, the Wuhan Virus WAY BEFORE the POTUS Trump started to use it.

        So then once the POTUS started to use it, it was ‘debunked’ without facts or investigating!

        …as more revelations surface about the major players involved in the early days of the pandemic, including some who deliberately helped ensure the lab-leak theory remained underground.

        People who knew, was directly related to it, and was profiting/financing the who gain-of-function research Wuhan was doing.

         

        #229078

        Nearly 20% of Canadians still hesitant or refusing to get COVID-19 vaccine: poll

        Nearly 20 per cent of Canadians still need to be convinced to get vaccinated against COVID-19, a new poll suggests — with one in 10 saying they definitely won’t get the shot.

        so.

        Federal health officials have said the country needs to reach a 75 per cent inoculation rate among Canadians aged 12 and over for provinces and territories to begin safely loosening health restrictions, with at least 20 per cent fully vaccinated.

        Wait a minute!

        Our provincial leaders said at 70%

        Now the feds are saying it is 75%

        However, Canada’s chief public health officer Dr. Theresa Tam said this week that the first number should potentially be bumped up beyond 80 per cent ..

        Oh, the every changing goal post is being moved yet again!

        And you wonder why so many people will not believe what these dumb asses have to say.

        But the poll suggests those incentives may only sway about half of unvaccinated adults at most. Just 55 per cent of those surveyed said the chance to win $1 million would change their minds, while the rest held firm.

        I am surprised the number is so high.  The chance to win!  Oh boy!  I can’t wait for the as yet unknown long term side effects to happen!  Yay!  Joy!

        …further incentives will also come from society, as governments and businesses debate issues like vaccine passports or barring unvaccinated people from certain activities and large gatherings.

        SHOW US YOUR PAPERS!  or you are a second class citizen, whom we can legally mistreat and discrimination against.

        I call that coercion and blackmail!

         

        #229331

        The WHO’s top scientist says we don’t yet know if COVID-19 booster shots are a good idea

        The World Health Organization’s top scientist says it’s too early to recommend COVID-19 booster shots.

        Vaccine manufacturers are developing extra doses that could boost the immune response in fully vaccinated people, but Soumya Swaminathan, chief scientist at the WHO, said that “we don’t have the information that’s necessary to make the recommendation on whether or not a booster will be needed.”

        Of course the manufacturers are.  This vaccine and boosters are worth BILLIONS to them.

        Booster doses aim to reignite the immune response, which reduces over time, and to protect against coronavirus variants. But as Insider previously reported, questions remain as to when they’ll be needed or if they’re needed at all, because we don’t know how long a COVID-19 vaccine protects you for.

        Some reports I read online said upwards to 5-6 months tops.

        And I am still waiting for the results of what the long term potential side effects of these jabs are.

         

        #229873

        Oh Look!  The us might be complacent in covering up the true origins of covid.

        A scientist says he’s found 13 Wuhan coronavirus sequences that were deleted from a US database – and claims they’re a ‘goldmine’ for research into the virus’ origins

        Aresearcher in Seattle claims he’s discovered 13 partial coronavirus sequences from samples collected in Wuhan, China, that were deleted from a US database last year.

        The discovery could mean scientists researching the origins of the pandemic have been working with incomplete data, he said.

        Incomplete, and an attempt to deflect its origins, no doubt!

        Dr. Jesse Bloom, a researcher at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle, said Tuesday that he had recovered the deleted files from Google Cloud, and had reconstructed partial sequences of 13 viruses. He said they came from samples taken at the early stages of pandemic in Wuhan, where scientists first discovered SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19.

        Wuhan?  But dr.Fraud told to for ages it is NOT a wuhan virus.

        The data initially came from a study by Wuhan University scientists, he said.

        Bloom said his findings suggested the coronavirus was already circulating in Wuhan before being linked to COVID-19 outbreaks at the Huanan Seafood Market. They also suggested the sequences used in most studies into the virus’ origins, including the joint WHO-China report, “are not fully representative of the viruses actually present in Wuhan at that time,” he said.

        That is something we thought, that it was LINKED to the food markets in china.

        But the mis-information media and they allies wanted everyone to look elsewhere… nothing to see here.

        Prof David Robertson, an expert on viruses at the University of Glasgow, said in a statement that it was difficult to “conclude this is a cover-up rather than a more mundane deletion of data,” based on Bloom’s paper. “We also know already that the Huanan market wasn’t the sole spillover event and SARS-CoV-2 was probably circulating in late October/November,” he said.

        OH look!  Someone also admitting on the Huanan market, and trying to downplay the deletion of the data.

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