Climate Change? When has climate ever been static?

This is one topic that sometimes I clash with a few conservative voices that downplay what’s happening in the planet right now.

I recommend the following documentaries:
Seaspiracy (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14152756/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0)
David Attenborough: A Life on Our Planet (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11989890/?ref_=tt_sims_tt_t_5)
Dominion (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5773402/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6)

The slaughter that happens on a daily basis by huge millionaire corporations putting many species almost in extinction is something that should be discussed very seriously by the world leaders. Many species are key for our planet to breathe (forests, corals…). But we are destroying it. Because of the abusive commercialization of everything.
And we’re just talking about the consequences in the environment and climate. If we start talking about animal rights, it’s even more horrendous (torture and suffering of animals).

We should stop supporting big corp brands, we should try to buy everything from local farms.

Big brands will lie to you, saying they have a sustainable model, but it’s fake, they slaughter millions of animals everyday, they destroy everything for profit and for luxury. (Example: in asian seas they kill hundreds of sharks everyday just because elite chinese like to drink shark soup because they say it’s luxurious and gives them good luck…).

But it’s stupid how the left pushes a bunch of fake campaigns every year of millionaire companies like starbucks etc, about plastic straws (that have zero impact) and other fake stuff, but they keep quiet about the animal slaughter that they do.
Oh and now they even support asian countries that eat dogs and cats… they say: “Respect other cultures!! we eat cows and pigs too!!”.
What a disgrace…

I mean I do think climate change caused by humans is real and eventually will be a problem, but not for a looong time and the panic and mass hysteria caused by Greta Thunberg etc. is just an exaggeration, predicting that by 2030 this and that will happend and we will be screwed.

100% agree with Peterson here:

If, you go off the charts the “scientist” have put out the Earth goes through Climatic cycles.
What or Who is to say we are not simply in a warming cycle now?
Scientist, well ya, and then others say its not!

But I can without a doubt and no need for science, say FOLLOW THE MONEY!

Look at all the industry built up around “The Green Industry” and supported by politicians.

Do we need to look at other forms of energy? Yes, but before those forms come on line for general use, we should also have safe ways to dispose of their waste safely.  Just as an example, all these electric cars, well those batteries will sooner or later be disposed of, where and how?

@DragonLady I recall the decade were the ‘EXPERTS” were calling that if we don’t change our ways, we can expect GLOBAL COOLING and the start of the next ice age.

The next decade, it was acid rains.

The next decade, it was the ozone, then the global warming.

The so called “EXPERTS” are completely moronic and stupid as hell.

SO they decided to use a term that happens all the time as the new buzz word.  Something you can’t argue against.

CLIMATE CHANGE!

In most places we have four seasons… that is climate change.  (Fall, Winter, Spring, Summer)

In a week, as can have sunshine, clouds, rains, thunder storms, winds, calm.  That is all climate change in action.

In a day, it can overcast overnight, temperature drop, morning fog, sun comes up, heats the air/burns off the fog, winds blows cloud away/clear skies, etc.  That is all climate change.

So you can’t say climate change is not real.

What is NOT real is their predictions and models.

But too many people will except it because someone said they are an “expert”… yay, and expert BS’ers!

One thing I have never heard from the green lobby or the politicians exploiting them to impose more rules and taxes on the rest of us is exactly what the global temperature and climate is supposed to be if not for human activity. If current conditions prove what they are saying then they should also be able to tell us what conditions would disprove what they are claiming.

In a week, as can have sunshine, clouds, rains, thunder storms, winds, calm.  That is all climate change in action.

In a day, it can overcast overnight, temperature drop, morning fog, sun comes up, heats the air/burns off the fog, winds blows cloud away/clear skies, etc.  That is all climate change.

that’s not climate, that’s weather. Ofc weather changes with time of the day and seasons. The way to measure if the long running climate has changed is by comparing the average temperature to earlier years, where many countries are breaking old heat records (in both peak and average temperature) and the ”everlasting” glaciers on the north and south pole are melting and rising the level of the ocean. These are all facts with statistics backing up.

However, I think the real question is if all this is caused hy humans and if it’s gonna lead to something bad and catastrophic or if it’s just a neverending cycle that like once in every 500 years for example the average temperature rises for X amount of years until the cooler period comes again. It’s like Jordan Peterson in the video I linked said, we cannot predict and know for sure if the climate will change in the coming 50 years and if it does, we can not stop or slow it down because there is no way to measure if the method is working before 50 years into the future.

My opinion is that the climate is slowly changing and the actions of us humans make the process a little bit faster with pollution etc, but nothing dramatic is still gonna happen in a very long time.