Doctor Who (and the destruction of)

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  • #160097

    Anyone have any feelings on Doctor Who? It was awesome from 1963 to 1989 and very good from 2005 to 2017.

    Then the Chibnall era started. And it’s bloody awful.

    Awful acting, cringeworthy dialogue, ridiculous foes, terrible music and totally agenda driven.

    And series 12 (of the modern era) was a disgrace and tried to retcon 55 years of the best sf show ever.

    Anyway, won’t rant too much but wanted to get a Who thread on here as it’s being treated the same way as Star Wars, Terminator, Star Trek, Bond and the Batman universe is.

    And hello all from the UK.

    • This topic was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by Les_McQueen.
    • This topic was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by Les_McQueen.
    #160120

    Hello back. I’m from the UK.

    Yes, another beloved franchise destroyed. I was never that much of a Who fan, only watching on and off really. The last time i watched some episodes was the Matt Smith days. I read with horror what is going on now.

    #160134

    Yup, unbelievable. Hartnell is no longer the first Doctor, apparently.

    And also there’s no jeopardy anymore as the Doctor is basically a God and can’t die. Total crock of shit.

    Anyway, much as I enjoyed a fair bit of the Nu Who era, I can’t be arsed with it anymore as it’s lead to the current abomination.

    I’m sticking to the classic era from now on. And Chibnall can piss right off.

    #160163

    I think we’re all heart broken over the decimation of the Dr. Who franchise.

    First time I saw the show I was in the 90’s when Sci-Fi channel was actually Sci-Fi Channel, and they showed some Baker episodes alongside some previous era doctors. I liked it, but I was too young to understand what the hell was really going on, since I had no context. (12-13 years old I think).

    So when 2005 came around and the restart began, a buddy of mine told me I had to watch it, because Eccleston was kicking some ass as the Doctor. I tuned in, and I was hooked. I stopped for a few years towards the end of the Tennant era, and I didn’t come back until the 50th anniversary was getting revved up. Finished Tennant, marathoned Matt Smith and ended up liking it more than I thought I would, and I was ready for the 50th and beyond. I really enjoyed Capaldi as the Doctor, though I agree he was done a disservice by poor writing and stories to work with.

    I was ready to give Dr. Brave and Stunning a chance at first, because I do enjoy female heroes when done right, but after the India Pakistan episode where NOT A GOD DAMNED THING HAPPENED and we are told PEOPLE ARE THE WORST MONSTERS, I ran. Couldn’t take it anymore.

    Since then I’ve watched Nerdrotic’s coverage of the downfall with great sadness.

    One of the best things to summarize the difference in how good it was to how bad it is now was done on Friday Night Tights last night. They were talking Dr. Who, and Gary let Az show some videos of Capaldi being the Doctor and Jodi running like the fucking coward she is. Everyone on the panel as silent and rapt with attention listening to Capaldi be the Doctor, and I realized I was caught up in it too. Watching good TV, people are silent and enjoying it.

    Fuck the BBC and fuck woke entertainment for ruining the things we all love.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by Roas.
    #160176

    I think we’re all heart broken over the decimation of the Dr. Who franchise.

    First time I saw the show I was in the 90’s when Sci-Fi channel was actually Sci-Fi Channel, and they showed some Baker episodes alongside some previous era doctors. I liked it, but I was too young to understand what the hell was really going on, since I had no context. (12-13 years old I think).

    So when 2005 came around and the restart began, a buddy of mine told me I had to watch it, because Eccleston was kicking some ass as the Doctor. I tuned in, and I was hooked. I stopped for a few years towards the end of the Tennant era, and I didn’t come back until the 50th anniversary was getting revved up. Finished Tennant, marathoned Matt Smith and ended up liking it more than I thought I would, and I was ready for the 50th and beyond. I really enjoyed Capaldi as the Doctor, though I agree he was done a disservice by poor writing and stories to work with.

    I was ready to give Dr. Brave and Stunning a chance at first, because I do enjoy female heroes when done right, but after the India Pakistan episode where NOT A GOD DAMNED THING HAPPENED and we are told PEOPLE ARE THE WORST MONSTERS, I ran. Couldn’t take it anymore.

    Since then I’ve watched Nerdrotic’s coverage of the downfall with great sadness.

    One of the best things to summarize the difference in how good it was to how bad it is now was done on Friday Night Tights last night. They were talking Dr. Who, and Gary let Az show some videos of Capaldi being the Doctor and Jodi running like the fucking coward she is. Everyone on the panel as silent and rapt with attention listening to Capaldi be the Doctor, and I realized I was caught up in it too. Watching good TV, people are silent and enjoying it.

    Fuck the BBC and fuck woke entertainment for ruining the things we all love.

    Here’s hoping this madness finally starts to end.

    #160191

    I haven’t watched any of Jodie Whitaker’s Doctor but I am aware that it’s sadly become agenda driven so I can’t be bothered to even want to watch it. I stopped watching after the first series with Capaldi, not because I didn’t like Capaldi’s Doctor but because I just stopped watching it. But yeah, everything I’ve seen from 1963-2014 I enjoy, though I enjoy some more than others obviously. Like, I can sit down & watch most of Troughton, Pertwee, Tom Baker, Eccleston, Tennant, & Smith genuinely have fun watching it. David Tennant is my favorite Revived Era Doctor & Patrick Troughton is my favorite Classic Doctor.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by Jaidabecca.
    #160215

    Such a shame it’s come to this, but it has.

    In all honesty I was hoping for Kris Marshall to be the 13th doctor. Never happened.

    But when the reveal happened, I was up for it. Jodie looked Doctorish and I’d not seen her in anything else.

    Then series 11 started. The first ep was dull but I kept plugging away. When she said “oh my beautiful Ghost Monument” in ep 2 I was just shocked at how awful it was.

    Then it got to Demons of the Punjab and I switched off with 10 mins to go. I was done. However, I heard good things about Kerblam! So I watched it on catch up and it felt the most ‘Dr who’ by far, but would’ve been a filler episode in any other season.

    I watched, in horror, the next few eps until It Takes You Away.

    Have never seen the Battle of Kov Ex or whatever it’s called.

    Did watch Revolution as it had a Dalek but it was awful. (Think of that crap and the awesome Dalek ep in series 1).

    Not seen a single ep of series 12 and have no plans to but I’ve seen what happens. Disgrace.

    Anyway, enough ranting maybe. What’s done is done.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by Les_McQueen.
    #161666

    Warning: Incoming long rant

    I grew up with Doctor Who as the sci fi show to watch on TV. I loved the show so much that in the days before home videos I would instead read the books and because of this I sometimes say that Tom Baker taught me to read. My grandmother knitted my a long coloured scarf.

    When the show was brought back again I tuned in again and watched, still really enjoying it. Of course there were a few dodgy episodes but every show has some of those. When Steven Moffat took over control I noticed that the number of poor episodes began to increase though and when the first episode of the Peter Capaldi era was broadcast I actually found myself looking at a clock to see how much longer was left (it didn’t help that that episode actually was longer than normal, it didn’t just seem that way). I thought Capaldi himself was excellent, the best actor to play The Doctor out of the new series but the material he was given was on the whole bad. There were about four episodes of his first series I enjoyed and for every one of those at least one I hated. Also we got the dreadful Missy character who just made me cringe. In his second series there were episodes that seemed like good ideas but that never quite hit the mark and overall I’d say it was bland. Then his third and final series arrived and it was just plain dreadful, especially the last episode in which the ending was nearly identical to that from the previous one (companion miraculously saved from death by the sudden reappearance of  pointless guest character from an earlier bad episode). I was still hopeful though that the PC posturing that had become the show’s main feature during this series would end when Steven Moffat left.

    Then it was announced that the new Doctor would be a woman and I knew that it would only get worse. I watched to the last Peter Capaldi episode and haven’t bothered since. To make it even worse Capaldi’s final episode was one of the worst, one of three during his run where the solution turned out to be to just sit back and do nothing because everything would work out by itself, making the last episode I saw also one of the worst I saw.
    Seriously the story ‘The Happiness Patrol’ in which The Doctor faces off against a robot made of sweets was better.

    However, I do own every episode of the classic series that is available on DVD. So much for any screeching NPC that wants to tell me that I’m ‘not a real fan’.

    #162478

    See, I came into Doctor Who from an unconventional way amongst Whovians. I saw the Doctor Who TV movie back in 2001 and so my first Doctor was Paul McGann. Was REALLY disappointed to learn that there wasn’t anything at the time to watch until 2005 with Christopher Eccelston. I fell in love with it, didn’t know at the time that I had PTSD so I related to the Ninth Doctor SO MUCH in “Dalek”. So I’ve been on the ride since then and to see the de-evolution of what Doctor Who SO universal, so LOVED, so unique…

    All because of “The future is female and men are bad”? These Karens are making female fans look bad!

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by USDutchkitty.
    #162644

    The Destruction of Doctor Who brought me to YouTube where I found Nerderodic, Geeks & Gamers, and others that felt my pain. I grow up with the 4th Doctor watching him on PBS. I looked forward to Doctor who and getting away from the world for a while. Later in life when the internet came along I was able to find all the original Doctor Who shows and watched from the beginning. I wish I had all of them on DVD.

    After every Doctor Who changes, you miss the old one but you end up liking them.  The first time I saw Doctor Who regenerate I was not sure about the new Doctor but I grew to love him too. Same with all of them. Until Now.

    I was not crazy about Capaldi’s Doctor.  He had some good episodes. But you could see signs that they were going to mess with the show. The sonic sunglasses was the first of many signs. I was just hoping that the next one would improve. I was wrong.  I have not and will not watch Jodi’s bad version of the Doctor. When they decided to make the Doctor a female doctor I was very much against it. If they want a female doctor do a spin-off. The Daughter of the doctor or maybe Granddaughter of the Doctor. That would open up for so many more show stories. Just don’t mess with my Doctor. I was not for a female Master either. I did like the Missy character and thought the episodes where good but I think the character should have been The Rani. I think the true fans would have been pleased with that.

    The BBC and SJW have totally ruined and successfully killed Doctor Who. May he RIP. So I take a sip from my Tardis Flask and toast to all the Doctors who made us dream big, have hope &. put a smile on our faces.  #RIPDoctorWho

    Tardis

     

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