Ellen/Elliot Page and Jordan Peterson

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July 2, 2022 at 4:55 am #274635
Vknid
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I was just looking up stuff about Jordan Peterson’s Twitter suspension. I happen to run across some pictures of “Elliot” Page, shirtless.

All I can say is it is NOT stunning and brave. This is a very sick person who has done extreme things to their body making themselves a severe lifetime medical patient.

I feel for Ellen Page. I feel sad for her. She is confused and unhappy and has not the mental facilities to deal with it. But butchering your own body does not solve these things and I fear only makes it worse.

Any person suggesting this for children or young people are sick sons of b!tches – to borrow a phrase from Mr. Peterson.

If you have not watched his very spirited rebuttal of his suspension I suggest you watch it as he addresses the situation directly and with a degree of intelligent ferocity.
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July 2, 2022 at 7:00 am #274639
Mustangride1
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It is a Mental condition. One I will not support…. As to the Butchers doing the surgery or prescriptions; Dr. Josef Mengele was doing his work legally under Nazi Rule, but once the war was over he was a Wanted War Criminal. Had he been captured he would have been been tried and executed just like many of the war criminals of the time. One was just now captured and tried at I believe the age of 101 and sentenced.

I will not be a party to a mental disease or a medical crime. I will not support it and certainly will not condone it by calling them by their new pronoun or fake title of a man or woman. YOU WERE BORN MALE OR FEMALE. If a person changes their name fine I will call Mary, Chuck. But I will never call Chuck, Mr. Jones as it is Mrs. Jones. Chucky don’t like it, Chuky does not need to come around me. I will not be part of the LIE!
July 2, 2022 at 8:30 am #274646
Vknid
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You know there is a true evil in this. And that is the radical left is willing to use these folks as a wedge issue while essentially harming them and ruining their lives. In fact they are happy to create more of them. And do they really care about them? No, they just use them and abuse them. In what sane world do you celebrate someone’s sickness instead of treating it? Evil I tell you.
July 2, 2022 at 11:06 am #274657
Legatus_Legionis
I would almost classify it as: BIID.

Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) is a rare, infrequently studied and highly secretive condition in which there is a mismatch between the mental body image and the physical body. Subjects suffering from BIID have an intense desire to amputate a major limb or severe the spinal cord in order to become paralyzed.

The removal of perfectly healthy and functioning BREASTS because of a mismatch between mental body image of yourself (hate being a biological female), IS an mental illness politicians/medical professionals are exploiting.

So instead of dealing with mental illness, those professionals/politicians would rather spend LOTS of money and making a permanent patient of the individuals.
July 2, 2022 at 11:10 am #274659
Vknid
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And the doctors MAKE lots of money. The whole trans thing is an absolute boon for the medical and pharma companies and for the long haul.
July 2, 2022 at 4:37 pm #274679
DarthVengeant
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Hollywood loves to glorify sickness. Look at what is going on with Ezra Miller. It’s silence from the media on him, and he is a disgusting mental case.

Ellen is another mental case. SHE can’t decide what she wants and or what she is because she was allowed to go hog wild and “do what thou wilt”. No one steps in and says “Hey, lets take a step back here and see what’s wrong”. Not in Hollywood, they love the sickness. They praise it. And anyone who questions it or steps outside of that small narrow box they have get’s the axe. Anyone who tries to bring a bit of decency or morality get’s cancelled. Gina Carano for example.
July 3, 2022 at 10:30 am #274744
Vknid
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It’s really a shame. She was a cute kid and a good actress. She played a handful of good parts. Now she is just creepy. I cannot look at the shirtless pics because it just makes me sad for her. She cannot undo that. That and that’s like looking at a woman topless and in the context I find it wrong.
July 3, 2022 at 10:34 am #274746
Maverick
The young and the breastless.
July 3, 2022 at 4:23 pm #274771
Legatus_Legionis
That and that’s like looking at a woman topless and in the context I find it wrong.

The answer:

A mastectomy is surgery to remove all breast tissue from a breast as a way to treat or prevent breast cancer.

So for women who has a family history of breast cancer, when they are done with breast feeding years, this is a option for them.

Displaying a breastless torso is consider a show of bravery and determination on their part who had to get a mastectomy.

But to do it as she did?

WRONG in so many ways I agree.
July 4, 2022 at 5:17 pm #274913
FallenOmegaStar
Somewhat related. Twitter tried to memory-hole this thread but it went viral before they could.

Be warned, this isn’t for those with a light stomach.
July 4, 2022 at 5:26 pm #274915
FallenOmegaStar
Twitter deleted the two tweets below, but thankfully someone saved them on Internet Archive:

I’m quickly getting done trying to even pretend there are two sides to this issue. If we told our great-grandfathers of several decades ago that in the future we would be removing healthy body parts just to try and accommodate the individual autonomy of people who are confused about they are and allowing what is so obviously a very evil racket to rake in profits they would flay us all alive for fools.
July 4, 2022 at 7:07 pm #274918
DigiCat
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@FallenOmegaStar, that twitter thread shows the most sickening side of all of this, the fact that these “doctors” lie about how well this works, that there is proof that it’s no where near as simple as “i want to be a man/woman”, the number of irreversible side effects goes way beyond not being able to have kids

Somehow i’m sure that if people knew what kind of gamble they’d be taking on their life by going thru with this, if all the risk where out in the open and talked about, many people would not think it’s worth the potential pain

What’s done is done, i just hope for Ellen/Elliot that things went well and there’s no pain or regret

‘Cause i have a bad feeling that the majority of cases, whether they decide to detransition or not, are more on the lines of TullipR’s story…
July 5, 2022 at 12:53 am #274945
Hazu
Obviously, I agree with him but to be honest, I’m not a fan of the recent style of Jordan Peterson. I prefer the Jordan Peterson that does podcasts with interesting people, uses Twitter just to promote his podcast, and, sometimes, talks about important issues. He should avoid these stupid topics about the lgbtqapedo+ community… that’s asking for trouble, and it’s just too boring already.

Too much twitter is bad for everyone…
July 5, 2022 at 1:39 am #274946
Vknid
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I think he weighed in on this one because it hits close to his profession and field of study.
July 6, 2022 at 1:35 am #275061
SuperSoynic_Speed
I used to like JP but after his hiatus the man has comoletely lost his marbles. He doesn’t focus as much on his area of expertise but makes these extremely pseudo profound points about religion and other stuff which no one (probably even himself) can grasp wtf he’s talking about. Sure there are some JP stans who say ”you’re just not intellectual enough to get it” but once you really deep dive to try to decipher it, it’s just a word salad nonsense which the people on the right just gobble up.

And let’s not forget about his dream about his grandma’s pubic hair. The guy is batshit crazy at this point.
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