Hillary Clinton – (right-wing extremists are making a plan to steal 2024)

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  • #285178
    Vknid
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      This is so batsh!t crazy I don’t have words for it.  They literally rather rule over ashes than not rule at all.

       

      #285194

      If “WE” win an election, it was fair and open.

      If “WE” lose an election, it was FRAUD and STOLEN.

      Yadda yadda yadda.

      They are planting the seeds of doubt and fear-mongering, yet again.  These power-hungry people have been trying everything they can to hold onto power, even thought they are the worst when it comes to managing the economy, inflation, border security, law & order, etc.

      The extremely toxic far alt-left must know that the people are seeing how their policies and agenda has made life WORSE, and the only way to correct it is by voting those morons out of office.

      #285203

      It can be fixed hyper easily: in person voting only, and you get inked like they do in India’s elections. Anyone trying to vote twice or manipulate in any way shall be hanged at the nearest court square.

       

      #285252

      When the 2020 election happened I didn’t think it was stolen. Most people who voted for Biden didn’t like Trump and decided to vote for the other guy. In 2024 we could see a switch back to a republican president, though if Trump is on the ballot, I believe there will be an increase in libertarian voting.

      #285496

      If “WE” win an election, it was fair and open.

      If “WE” lose an election, it was FRAUD and STOLEN.

      Yadda yadda yadda.

      They are planting the seeds of doubt and fear-mongering, yet again.  These power-hungry people have been trying everything they can to hold onto power

      Oh the irony

      #285497
      Vknid
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        “Oh the irony”

        Not really.  Only one “side” is claiming election theft in the future tense.

        While Republicans claimed some honk honk in the 2020 election it was only the Democrats who have simultaneously claimed fraud and disinformation if you claimed fraud.

        Now, let’s not play partisan games.  Through the years I am certain all sides are guilty.  Let’s recall the “hanging chads” situation of Bush/Gore (2 sides of the same establishment coin). But as far as I know only the Democrats have had proof brought forward against them on multiple occasions of ballot shenanigans.

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        #285501

        Not really.  Only one “side” is claiming election theft in the future tense.

         

        “Mail ballots are a very dangerous thing for this country, because they’re cheaters,”

        The president told Fox News that “mail-in voting is going to rig the election.”

        Interviewer Chris Wallace responded, “Are you suggesting that you might not accept the results of the election?”

        “I have to see,” Trump replied.

        Trump was preparing his fraud excuse already in April 2020, 7 months before the elections.

        The Democrats were on some copium and talking about rigged elections for a while too but accepted defeat and dropped it pretty quickly. They didn’t storm the Capitol in some psychotic state thinking they are patriotic heroes rescuing the country until they get clapped and start blaming on the other side.

         

        #285502

        I can’t recall this the time I have not heard a US federal or midterm election that one side or the other not yelling “fraud!” or “unfair!”.

        That one side had started the “sky is falling” so early, I find revolting.

        Democracy is at risk is the voters reject our policies for the other side’s policies.

        No, that IS democracy at work, you kommi dictator elitist scumbags.

        #285506
        Vknid
        Moderator

          “Trump was preparing his fraud excuse already in April 2020”

          There is a distinct difference in saying mail-in ballots are dangerous (and they absolutely are and for everyone not just one side) and saying the election 2 years from now is going to be stolen. That’s not even close.

          #286017

          @Vknid which makes the moaning and crying even worse as if there was a way to prove some fraud, how can you guarantee democrats benefited from it? And the ballots have been in use for a long time, didn’t see members of the Trump cult complain in 2016. It’s clear that on the losing side people are gonna complain and make conspiracy theories but the moaning by the democrats stopped pretty quick. Clinton admitted her defeat the day after the election.

          2 years later, Donnie boy is still acting like a baby and his cult followers  still won’t admit their L. The majority of republicans still think Trump won, and as a friendly reminder, Trump’s lunatic self proclaimed patriots started a riot and broke in to overturn the elections. That’s not even close.

           

          #286022

          We see the rigging in every sector. The latest one was Big Tech with Elon showing just how biased the media is at every level. That behavior would not be necessary if the elections were fair and there was a level playing field.

          The latest contention is in Brazil with Bolsanaro. Whether it’s Brazil, the truckers in Canada, the Dutch farmers, the Yellow Vests in Paris, it’s pretty clear Democracy is a sham and a charade and a front and people like Trudeau, Macron, and others.

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          #286064

          Ratings, analytics, metrics, do numbers outside of election results mean anything to logical and rational people who can think?

          How many times all over the world has a candidate brought in bigger numbers only  to lose the election? Would ask if the results that the media tells you are in congruence with what your own eyes, ears, and brain tell you? If they are not, would you be willing to question, or is psyop big bankster media snark enough to intimidate you into silence?

           

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          #286067
          Vknid
          Moderator

            “2 years later, Donnie boy is still acting like a baby and his cult followers  still won’t admit their L. The majority of republicans still think Trump won, and as a friendly reminder, Trump’s lunatic self proclaimed patriots started a riot and broke in to overturn the elections. That’s not even close.”

            Are there Trump sycophants that fully believe the election was stolen?  Sure.  Is it the majority of Republicans, no.  That is hyperbole.  I would call Trump many things but lunatic is not one of those things.  No one was trying to or going to overturn an election by misbehaving at the capital and to say so is again hyperbole.  I no more think an election was going to be overturned by that than I do when leftists rioted at the White House in may of 2020 burning things down and actually injuring people to the point of forcing Trump into a secure bunker.

            #286070

            @comicsgate

            The latest contention is in Brazil with Bolsanaro.

            I’d like to hear your take on this.

            How many times all over the world has a candidate brought in bigger numbers only  to lose the election? Would ask if the results that the media tells you are in congruence with what your own eyes, ears, and brain tell you?

            Are you going for the anecdotes over empirical evidence atuff that Andrew Tate is pushing?

            Oh no, do you think social media followers mirror who people are voting for? Some people are talented at attracting people to be completely invested in them and gaining a big following, sometimes as far as like a cult worshipping. That doesn’t mean people agree with them more.

            A couple examples: more people identify as Trump fans than Biden fans and therefore Trump has more followers, yet more people seemed to prefer Biden’s policies and vote for him even tho very few are ”Biden fans” who would follow his social medias.

            Andrew Tate had a huge fanbase of edgy teenagers striving to become an alpha male, yet more people found him as a facade scamming people.

            BTS has way more followers on Twitter and Instagram than Eminem, AC/DC, you name it, but more people on the streets are familiar with the aftermentioned. Loyal fanbase is not the same as majority, it’s similar to the loud minority effect.

            #286071

            Is it the majority of Republicans, no.

            According to all the surveys and studies I found, actually yes. They vary between 55-70% that believe it.

            Also, apparenty 238/436 of republican house candidates believe there was fraud. A majority. 20/36 senate candidates believe it. A majority.  20/36 gubernatorial candidates believe it. A majority. 12/27 secretary of states candidates believe it. That’s almost half.

            I can provide links to the studies if you want. But when all these powerful people believe it, they’re gonna propagandize other people.

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