I wish G+G and Doomcock would make up then move on

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    I am probably gonna invite alot of drama along with hate for even talking about this from the community but since it has been several months since that situation happened between G+G and Doomcock, I thought I would talk about it now. First off I didn’t see the Friday Night Tights stream where Ryan and Doomcock had their spat, I only knew about their aftermath 4 months ago that was the big thing on Discord back when I had it. Alot of Youtubers like Mr. H talked about the situation and I got a summary of it.

    At that time I said nothing as I didn’t want drama or take sides, I still don’t but I now just want to speak my thoughts and opinions about G+G and Doomcock. I know there is alot of anger towards Doomcock and alot of anger Ryan.

    I don’t really know either of these guys personally but I had responded to them in Youtube comments in the past back when I still had a Youtube account. I back in the day had alot of my comments read, replied and favourited by to by Doomcock several times. He even answered an email I sent him long ago and he even read a few of my questions I had asked him on his livestreams.

    Heck it was on one of Doomcock’s livestreams that I ever first interacted with people in The Fandom Menace and I kind of interacted with Doomcock. He seemed like a nice guy, a funny dude also and if it weren’t for him I wouldn’t feel so welcomed into a community that saw pop culture as I did. So if not for Doomcock whether you guys like him or hate him, I wouldn’t be here now talking to all of you on this website.

    I have no idea if Doomcock’s rumours are true or not about Star Wars but he does say take it with a grain of salt like in all his videos so that kind says if he is wrong he is kind of insured against people calling him out as wrong. I hate what is happening in Star Wars right now but Doomcock’s rumours he reports on comforts me in a way whether they are true or not? I just want good news in Star Wars.

    Star Wars is in such a bad way these days, that I want to hear something good news once in awhile even if someone is gonna debunk Doomcock’s claims later like Mr. H Reviews. Doomcock knows how to entertain and I like that about him as he keeps me distracted from the negative that is Disney Star Wars and I am grateful to him for putting a community of people together for me to be apart of that let know more like minded people.

    So it really makes me sad to see Doomcock not ever be able to interact with Jeremy, Nerdrotic, Drunk and the rest as when I first discovered The Fandom Menace, Doomcock used to hangout with Jeremy all the time and that felt like home for me. Now that Jeremy along with the rest of G+G aren’t on speaking terms with Doomcock I feel like a kid who’s family fell apart and half my family went to the other side of the country while I stayed with half that is still in the same place but home doesn’t feel like home anymore without the family members that left.

    I wish for old time sake that Jeremy, Ryan, Nerdrotic and Doomcock would just patch things up in very near future then things could be like they were before. It feels weird to watch Gary now and him never mentioning Doomcock as they used to do the Exo Zone together.

    I miss the old days when everyone in The Fandom Menace used to get along.





    I’d wish for that too, but reality is always harsh, OverlordDVD already moved on and has a new stream program, Gary seems to be enjoying FNT, also I’m with Ryan and Jeremy respecting Disney Star Wars: better leave them be until they can no longer make real profit and on the long term hopefully they’ll sell it back to George or another company that is really interested on making real and original Star Wars content.

    Now is crystal clear they can’t fire Kathleen Kennedy, nor until the woke politics are removed and they’re not going anywhere, anytime soon.

    IMHO I enjoyed watching Doomcock’s videos more when he was like the Critical Drinker giving his fair opinion on woke Hollywood than being like Mike Zeroh’s rumors channel even If he’s more accurate than the later.


    Oi, not this stuff again.

    What is it with pining for The Fandom Menace? The Fandom Menace was basically a failure after its initial rallying cry to just let people know they were not alone in being pissed at Disney Lucasfilm. Did TFM actually accomplish anything in stopping Disney from its continued destruction of Star Wars and other projects?

    Not that I can see.

    Disney has continued to run unchecked in destroying one property after another while many “alleged” and “supposed” members of TFM whine and complain more about purity tests than actually trying to be a community. The Fandom Menace was a hashtag and nothing more than a rallying cry that has long since served its purpose and is redundant to the real fight that is going on.

    Not to mention, Jeremy/G+G, Gary, Doomcock, EVS, etc….no one there was actually TFM. Many times they all said in one way shape or form, “I am not Fandom Menace. It’s just a hashtag. I’m me. I am not a part of any organization calling itself that.” So this rose colored glasses of people saying TFM needs to reform are deluding themselves and forgetting the actual history.

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again….we’re all adults here…we don’t need to all get along and be besties to do the work that we’re doing. Adults are gonna fight, and most times not get along and then go their separate ways and just do their own things, which is sometimes for the best. When that happens, then people aren’t stepping on each other’s toes and life goes the F on. What matters is that wherever they have gone, and whatever they are doing, people continue to work to shine a light on the filth of Disney/Hollywood, SJWs, and the rest of the woke Marxists in entertainment.

    Sometimes people will work together for a while, but we are all basically individual resistance cells that are more often than not stronger being separate because then if one gets canceled then the rest survive and fight on and new ones get formed all the time. Being a single “organization” is the dumbest thing to be, because it paints a target big enough for the SJWs to focus fire and burn us down by taking out leaders and strongholds.

    Once and for all, people need to forget this hindsight appreciation for a thing that The Fandom Menace never was and focus on the present and the future.

    History teaches us lessons, but wallowing in it can also be a hindrance.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Roas.

    Can I get a transcript of the interaction between DVD and Ryan or do I have to find the Friday Night Tights episode that DVD was on? I assume DVD was only on it one time. You said it happened some months ago?


    Can I get a transcript of the interaction between DVD and Ryan or do I have to find the Friday Night Tights episode that DVD was on? I assume DVD was only on it one time. You said it happened some months ago?

    Doomcock has never been on FNT. What happened did spawn from events leading up to an FNT episode and then Twitter.

    You know the meme/rumor of Lucasfilm Civil War and Kathleen Kennedy is always about to be fired?

    Doomcock basically pushed that hard….and people believed him.

    What happened over the summer was Doomcock basically switched his content from commentary and reviews to rumor milling. Granted, he found a massive audience that wanted that, and his channel grew rapidly. So if that’s how he wants to make that scratch and run his channel, then that’s his choice. Thing is, a decent portion of his old audience, an audience that is shared by this entire corner/sphere of YouTube, was annoyed because we (yes I liked the way his channel used to be) just wanted fun videos again, not rumors talking about the “Lucasfilm Civil War That Favreau is winning and KK is about to be fired…”

    Because of this, a lot of old school Doomcock fans became frustrated and annoyed, because now his channel was just rumors all the time.

    Well, parts of the FNT crew started to tease that making memes and jokes about KK being fired, and then one night during a discussion Ryan went off on the whole thing and did a rage rant, basically sticking it to Doomcock about pushing rumors and making people constantly think they’re going to happen.

    Doomcock got butt hurt over that and did a pretty ugly Twitter rant at Ryan.

    This went on for a week between FNT shows to the point where The Inquisition got canceled two weekends in a row and ended up being permanently canceled. Die hard loyalist fans on both sides dug in, chose sides, and then made it kinda worse by then flaming either Doomcock or FNT crew, disavowing their support for the other side and choosing to white knight for one or the other.

    Gary supposedly smoothed things over behind the scenes eventually, and he and Doomcock did one more ExoZone, but since then there has been a pretty visible dissolving of their prior partnership with Doomcock going his way and still doing what he does and Gary putting more time into supporting FNT crew channels.

    That’s the story.

    Like I said before, this is life. Shit like this happens, and pining for the past is not healthy. Sometimes people are better off choosing paths that are not the same and doing their own thing. That’s how the real world works. This isn’t the freaking sandbox where we’re all innocent little kiddies, and we naturally get along…this is real life and egos and agendas and decisions made to be successful and profitable sometimes end up driving us rather than being nice and dancing in circle jerk. We’re normal people, and we’re going to have different opinions. We’re not SJWs who have a hive mind and robotically agree on everything.

    I personally do not agree with the choices Doomcock made for his channel, but the channel blew up and he’s making money, so it’s successful and the loss of a few former fans like myself was balanced out, and he can do whatever he wants with his own channel, even if I think it’s a little dishonest and disingenuous. But like I said, his new sub base wants that, and he’s giving it to them and being successful. Best of luck to Doomcock, but people like me got left behind, have moved on, and I honestly never give it a second thought until it gets brought up like this.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Roas.

    From what I recall, it was a twitter argument between Ryan and Doomcock, so there is no y-tube vid of the interaction that caused the division.  Just talk about the aftermath.

    And I think the two agreed to disagree on the point in question and have BOTH moved on… as I think we should.

    That there is still some politics that are preventing them from interacting with each other on both sides, is a shame.


    I do BOTH FNT and FNF.

    I do BOTH Nerdrotic Nooners and Pop Culture Breakdown.

    I get the odd G&G Games night (Most times I won’t be in the chat when I am).


    Their message(s), and their love to save pop culture IS and should BE more important than people picking sides (personalities/egos).


    In time, I do hope Gary, Jeremy and Doomcock will once again produce vids together.

    But until then, I won’t push or pressure them to do so.

    It will come when THEY are good and ready…. and I know most of us would like that to be sooner than later.

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