Jeremy is Foolish

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  • #204883

    I think people who plan to kill the vice president and storm the Capitol because they believe in far right conspiracy theories are alt right. But if the name alt right makes you feel bad then I can also simply call them mentally unstable terrorists.

    #204884

    I do agree. People with common sense should lean more towards the right. The overton window is sliding towards the left, while I think people on the right in general are more logical. But as I’ve stated many times, far right people are just as psychos as far left people.

    #204887

    Of course there are individuals worse than other indiciduals in large groups. I’m not blaming all the Trump supporters, nor do I even blame those who protested outside the Capitol. I simply blame those who broke the law.

    And if we are really going to take the debate into a matter of which side (BLM vs Trumpsters) is less evil then I would say in general, the Trumpsters becase the BLM riots lasted for months as you said. But it goes to individual levels too. Burning, killing, stealing for months is worse than walking into the Capitol building and possibly snatching something from there, but on the contrary, looting a pair of sneakers from a Nike shop is not on the same level as planning on killing the vice president, forcing your way into the Capitol in tactical gear and weapons and smashing a cop in the head with a fire extinguisher.

    What I simply can’t comprehend is how people who I believe are very far on the right (even on this forum) can’t admit that their people can do wrongs. When the siege happened, people went like ”well it was just a peaceful protest nothing that bad happened” (which btw sounds very similar what people said about BLM last summer) or ”well I think it’s good to show off a bit of collective strength like this” and as soon as Trump said it’s not american behaviour and condemned the actions these geniuses immediately started shifting all the blame on Antifa. With QAnon furry weirdos, dudes with swastikas tattooed on their chests hyping up Trump being Jesus reborn on Parler etc. leading the charge, some people still can’t accept the simple fact that people on the far right are fucking insane.

    Also the bully and the locker comparison is not accurate. If a bully was shoving me into a locker I would use the force necessary to get out of the situation. But I wouldn’t then go to another person and shove him into the locker because ”the other bully did it too!”. THAT would make me just as bad as him.

    What my whole point simply is that people here are blinded by their own political preferences. They try to find any excuses for their own side while trying to shift the blame on the other side everytime there’s a possibility. I am sure some people on this forum for example Niko Bellic (rip) reads every news article with a massive confirmation bias, and instead of trying to objectively gather information these people only seek information which supports their narrative. And I know, the left and the mainstream fake news does it even more but we all already know that.

    What I simply find concerning is that some people seem to put their own agenda in front of the wellbeing of their country. Like people saying ”I hope Trump does everything he can to make Biden’s time as president a living hell!”

    As a non american, I find it hilarious but also a bit concerning how there is every single morning some shit happening there because of politics. The two party system is tearing the whole country apart. Which reminds me of a clip from a show from 2012, and I feel like it’s even more relevant now:

     

    #204916

    I have tons of issues with that clip (especially the idea that Europe is somehow just as free as the USA) but if I went into them in depth it’d be derailing the topic. Steven Crowder addressed most of the main points years ago, anyway. America isn’t without it’s problems, but most of those are recent that developed within the same time-span as a Boomer’s lifetime; it’s easy to be demoralized and think America looks like a failed state but people still want to go live there in spite of that.

    The bully analogy was to try and help you understand how most MAGA bros feel, because they perceive the American government as the bully. Leftist freaks they can endure, but when the state itself holds them to higher standard and ignores their calls for transparency in the election, it starts to become too much to bear. That feeling of powerlessness in turn creates a desire to take action. Do keep in mind how the country was founded: The Thirteen Colonies were willing to go to war against the British Empire because they believed in their right to self-rule: That has fundamentally shaped many American’s character and beliefs in their anti-authority sentiments, in addition to their staunchly individualistic culture compared to the rest of the world.

    But otherwise I can understand what you’re getting at: There’s nothing wrong with trying to seek harmony and unity, the thing is the Right tried to extend an olive branch for years, only for the Left to spit in their faces, call them evil and push the goalposts further. The two-party system has contributed to America’s divide, but I think what’s driving it is the total moralization of issues like guns and abortion (which are largely being pushed by the government and media), saying if you’re against these things than you’re just a bigot. The lack of honest debate or right-wing thought leaders in MSM has left Leftoids unable to comprehend the moral reasons of why conservatives believe the things that they do, and leftists who are intellectually curious enough to at least ask questions get ostracized.

    That toxic attitude has fed into the Right as well and creates reactionaries who can often be their own worst enemies; certain individuals who do not look to adequately explain themselves or their positions and believe in fighting fire with fire. That kind of militant behavior in treating everyone who isn’t part of “the tribe” as an enemy has the danger of consuming bystanders in a blazing inferno and give the Left the ammo they want (sometimes I wonder if this is why the Left acts the way it does: To constantly provoke the Right into committing violence so they can quickly turn around and paint themselves as victims. It’s utterly craven).

    What they need to keep in mind is not everyone who might disagree with them is a true believer. The liberal culture is the current dominant one so of course most people are going to hold liberal positions and be sympathetic to ideas further left without thinking on them too deeply. I’m pretty sure if the culture changed to become more conservative, at least 70% of people would rethink their values. Something which terrifies the Left and why they have to censor us.

    #204918

    Delusional commie fuckboi is delusional.

    Oh and at no time was Parler an echo chamber. That is just retarded.

    #204991

    I think Parler couldn’t have been an echo chamber because their new found popularity was too new. And to that account, Facebook and Twitter much more prone to be echo chambers, especially after this most recent purge

    #204995

     

    It’s not the boots on the ground police. They don’t make the laws, fund themselves, and really the only thing they can do is catch someone after the fact or in the act. The police can’t prevent crime. Unfortunately the American Leftists have been taught the Cloward-Piven strategy of “Overwhelm the system” and it works perfectly to disrupt every individual aspect of a free society. When you get swarmed by thousands of willing law breakers in a society where protesting is a right there is no law, only the mob.

     

    You saw this single tactic deployed starting with the “Occupy Wall Street” movement and with every riot during Obama (leftist community organizer) and Trump (Orange Man Bad) it got more and more honed and sharpened until we saw it finally weaponized this summer. It’s all the same people. Come 2020, In conjunction with a planned pandemic, fake impeachment. and under the cover of perceived racism it easily and without resistance took over every city it started in, especially Democrat run dumps where there is barely a police presence and peace in the first place.

     

    You also saw this plan executed with the millions of  fraudulent mail in ballots that weren’t scrutinized or checked for validation. The genius there is they never needed the physical ballots just the expectation they were supposed to exist (made of course by the media) and exist only for Biden.  In a long term strategy you also see it at the border, where democrats and republicans both want their fill of illegal immigrants to feed off of them in different ways. Democrats want unlimited and unchecked slave voters and Republicans want their cheap slave labor (and both make more money off of china’s slave labor). While the media, hollywood, and an entire political party keep using this strategy with impunity against all political dissent they will have enough short term power to do a lot of damage.

    #205019

    Well said. As a Canadian, looking from a distance at recent events in the U.S., I can’t believe the courts didn’t even allow anyone to present voter fraud evidence. I hope the U.S. doesn’t become like Canada, with an illusion of political party options…

    #205022

    The courts are all fradulent at this point. Trump was told his list of prospects were Constitutionalists; its becoming obvious they are revisionists.

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