Kanye – Mad genius or simply mad?

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  • #288507
    Vknid
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      I am sure everyone by now has seen the Tim Pool and Alex Jones clips.

      For me, I think the man has cracked and I feel bad for him because there is no one around one who truly cares to try to help him out.  Seems his inner circle is full of users and abusers.

      However, crazy or not, you cannot just walk past the hate is espousing without acknowledging it.

      #288511
      DarthVengeant
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        I personally don’t give a rip about this celebrity, and other people shouldn’t either. His music is garbage, as was his whore ex-wife. These people don’t live in reality, so why would anyone expect them to say anything realistic? He says one good thing, and then 2 idiotic things. Why do we care? I certainly don’t. His little tantrum act on Tim Pool was childish and egotistical. He clearly went way over the line on Alex Jones, so much that even Alex was speechless.

        He owes 50mil in Taxes. To people like us, the people who actually WORK for a living, that is unfathomable. They live in an entirely different world than we do. They do not deserve the attention, glorification, or money they all have.

        My real question is : Why the HELL was Trump allowing this lunatic to come have dinner with him? That was a BAD decision.

        #288514

        From what I have seen, he wanted the discussions with Tim Pool to deal with only topics HE wanted to talk about.  You would have thought he and his representatives would have made it clear they would only go on the show if they only talked X, Y, Z.

         

        As for the Alex Jones…. was that really him, or were they making fun of it?  (an actor fully covered so you could not see who it was) making a parody of him…

         

        So I don’t know if he is a:

        Mad genius or simply mad?

        Annoying, definitely.

        #288516
        Vknid
        Moderator

          Whether you like him or not, he is culturally relevant.  You are free to ignore his antics and think they are silly (I do too) but others are paying attention.

          I talk about this not because I care so much (I don’t, I have never heard even 1 of his songs) but because he is important to the culture wars.

          Clearly he “showed his arse” on Tim Pool and Alex Jones.  But what I think he showed is he is unstable and in need of help.  Imagine being so rich the only people around you are there to leech off your success.  Then when that success dies down they flee and you have NOTHING.  It must be a terrible position to be in.

          I totally disregard the tax thing.  Anyone who speaks out against the US goverment at this point can expect IRS and DOJ investigations.  Watch as they come for Elon Musk next as proof.

          I think Trump planned a dinner with this guy BECAUSE he is culturally relevant.  The dinner was planned before the dude cracked and Nick Fuentes was a surprise guest and Trump did not know who he was.  Milo is in there somewhere hurting whomever he can.  He is smart as hell but Milo is a petty lil B. Which is unfortunate as he could be a force for good.

          #288524
          DarthVengeant
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            “culturally relevant”

            He is only relevant because people glorify him and give him attention. He was married to a slut who slept around, also had a sex tape, her entire family got a TV show that people watched liked mindless idiots and threw money at them FOR DOING NOTHING. What exactly did they do? Stand around half naked? WOW!!! What an accomplishment. How culturally relevant. He is NOT worth any of it, but neither are most celebrities. But, the Kardashians are the MOST unworthy. His music is the same old modern untalented garbage that’s been heard 10000 times before. He needs to shut his mouth and get mental help.

            Usually what is culturally relevant is trash. In this case, that is proven.

            #288531

            I never liked Kanye. I absolutely HATE the Kardashians (a friend of mine accidentally stumbled upon their show at one point a while back. She switched it to another channel after fine minutes because it was the most boring thing she had seen on TV😂). I admit that Kanye was starting to have some of my respect after he left Kim but then I went back to not liking him after that incident the other day.

            #288542
            Vknid
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              @DarthVengeant

              I agree with everything you said and your take on the topic.  I am not even sure why he garners so much attention but that does not change the fact he does.

              But clearly dude needs help.  Can you imagine being their kids?  Having that for a mom and that for a dad?  Holy shite, that cannot be easy regardless of the cash involved.

              #288566
              DarthVengeant
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                @Vknid : Having a mother who has a sex tape and has slept around while having her body exposed continually in media must be something of pride for their kids. The rest of the family being skimpy whores, and a father who has turned into a lunatic. Talk about traumatizing.

                Michael Savage has spoken about this “family” for years, and I share the same opinion he does. “scum of the earth”.

                #288618

                Genius when it comes to music (especially like pre 2015 ish) and is without a doubt one of the most influential and important players in hiphop music, and music in general during the 2000’s and early 2010’s. I would even say My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is pretty close to a top 10 greatest rap albums of all time.

                When it comes to outside music he has always been crazy, and now he’s been exploited and ended up the rabbit hole of alt right and nazism which he has gone deeper and deeper for a quite some time already, and there’s even been warnings since 2018.AB4E1DB6-5A20-4D95-B69F-14F93AE02BF5

                #288804

                DV’s posts were good on this topic. Never liked this guy or his music. Who is worse though, Ye and Kim K or the machine and system that promoted and marketed them this whole time? It’s not like he’s the only one, there is an assembly line of horrible acts that keep coming out, so I am grateful to any person who goes against whoever is behind this system of slop.

                There was talk of the people he was surrounded with before and allegations against a personal trainer that threatened to drug him and lobotomize him, so I thought that maybe he sensed that and just decided to go off and expose it all. A person I shared that with just laughed and said that he is still an instrument of control and that this is still part of the reality show act.

                Also, I did not really hear any hate and it’s not like the rap hasn’t been full of hate for decades. Same with the movies, shows and magazines and newspapers, there has been a lot of hate from this system that has gone uncontested for too long and so long that I’m not sure there is ever going to be any making up for it. Then, you have characters like Ethan Klein who just want it all to escalate. The woke agenda is only making things worse, so I am grateful to anyone who wants to go against the status quo. Even nostalgia is being ruined and according to the latest POV on this site, it is their deliberate intent to destroy anything that has a fandom and anything that people have fond memories of.

                I am not a fan of Ye at all, but there are real tangible things that involve money and human lives that are far, far more important than this and to try to pin problems of the country on this guy are severely misplaced. It does strike me as odd that he got Gospel album of the year and spoke at the church of Joel Osteen, given his past behavior and his lyrics. That same church fired a musician I liked for having an affair, so I thought they took those things more seriously.

                One thing he did say that was true was to just let the past go and that struck me as true. It seems now that things are being dragged backwards and in reverse. Everything is a remake of the old. All is old. By what metric or analytic are things improving?

                #288910

                Ye exposed the system as fake and rigged. He committed no crime and lost a billion dollars for some mundane, milquetoast comments. It’s scary how brainwashed people are like Pavlov dogs to be afraid of the boogeyman generations later. Also, how terms like “hate” or “hope and change” have the public drooling like dogs in their conditioned response state. Ye said that other rappers are blackmailed because they have murdered people. Ye also said that his parents were Black Panthers and communists and this was the same situation with Tupac. Seems like they went on to live privileged lives as members of the entertainment class and that is one reason I am starting to like Ye.

                He seemed to have it all and it was all taken away over no crime. It shows me that there is no such thing as F-U money. Speaking of hate, how many people have been conditioned to hate Germans or hate French? I have yet to hear one person tell me even one hateful comment that Ye made that justified what was done against him. I didn’t follow Ye, not his music and not his career, but the people I know worshiped the guy as some kind of idol and I am gratful to Ye because he showed the world that this notion of making some kind of fashion empire means nothing because distribution is controlled by external forces. It shows the economy is vertically integrated and monopolized by at least like 80%. It also shows the lack of independent business, where you need to be some kind of ticket-taker to even participate. Think about the number of talented designers who never made it because of this.

                The response to him proves Ye Is Right.

                #288917
                Vknid
                Moderator

                  @comiscsgate

                  I agree with most of what you say.  But we must keep in context the things he has said later beyond his initial tweets.  His Alex Jones interview shows a much darker side of his beliefs.  HOWEVER, he should be free to state his beliefs even if hateful or racist and while I think some of what happened to him was wrong some of it was consequences of his actions.  Losing sponsors and contracts is the choice of a private company.  If Adidas decided to not work with someone because of what they said that is within their purview to do so.

                  I feel for the man because I think he has a loose grip on reality at this time because of many hard events in his life.  But at the same time many of us go through such events but we are not billionaires so no one cares and we don’t have millions to drown our sorrows in.

                  #289150

                  Sunday, December 11, 2022 – Ye (Kanye West) told X17 exclusively today — during a full face masked interview — that he is NOT bipolar and having an episode, but that he might be autistic. He goes on to explain that China is the real threat to the U.S. and that Satan is using the Chinese government to attack us. The designer extraordinaire met with some of his staff at the Cornerstone Christian Church, where he visited two weeks ago, to discuss the Donda Academy being housed at this facility, we’re told. You can see a few students leaving the building.

                  #289188

                  He’s basically subscribed to the same form of radical Christianity as Hitler. That’s why he admires the guy. They sure have the Jew-hatred in common.

                  His whining about the backlash is ridiculous. Obviously when you repeat the talking points of David Duke and Hitler, you’re gonna lose your sponsorships. Should be have been censored? No, since he didn’t overtly call for violence. But unlike Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, Trump and all the others accused of being Nazis… this guy actually is.

                  #289240

                  Have yet to hear anyone tell me the hateful comment on Ye’s part.

                  I was a very good boy my entire life and always thought Hitler and David Duke were the most evil people who have ever lived. That was brainwashed and ingrained. For some reason, even though it was accepted that Hitler was the most evil man who’s ever lived, he did make Time magazine’s Man of the Year and there was that whole financial miracle thing. Even that was acknowledged back when all the classes and movies told me how bad the guy was.

                  What I didn’t know was that David Duke was a two time Louisiana Congressman. I felt like a dumbass when someone told me that. I was like, who died on his watch? Who’d he kill? No one? How’s that possible when we were taught to fear the guy so much?

                  Alex Jones said something about his granddaddy fighting Nazis and babysitting Nazis. Join the club. My granddad fought the Nazis too. Came back with bullets in him and he was deaf and get this, it was from “friendly-fire” and not even from the enemy. He was shot in the back.

                  Anyway, I continue to await hateful comments made by Ye.

                  As for radical Christianity, that must be why Zelensky is outlawing the churches. Must be why the allies bombed all the churches as well. Must have been some kind of threat, the senior citizens and grey birds at the end of their lives, trying to congregate and commune with God. Strikes me like the radicals are the ones against churches.

                  Who’s today’s Hitler? Putin? Who was yesterday’s Hitler? Saddam, Gaddafi, Osama Bin Laden, etc. There’s always another Hitler, isn’t there? Hiter is under your bed. Hitler is hiding in your closet. Hitler is your neighbor. Hitler is your countryman. Ding, ding, ding. Listen to the the Hitler trance word and go into a fighting rage because you’re a HERO!! Someone out there is Hitler and when you hear that name, you have an excuse to commit massive violence and atrocities beacause there is evil and danger out there.

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