LGBT groups trying to prevent release of the Nashville Shooter’s Manifesto?

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    Vknid
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      There are media “ghouls” on all sides. Conflating organizations who make money via fear mongering click-bait with what normal people think is a massive mistake. Just because CNN pulls stuff out of the air in whatever fashion they need to to support whatever thing they are pushing that day does not mean I assume all people on the other “team” think that stuff.

      And you have 2 people on this 1 small forum telling you they find the term CIS offensive.  Yet you find nothing wrong with it.  I bet if we were openly in any other group you would be fine to abide by our wishes.

      You seem just fine with using identity politics yourself and that is what that term is it has no other purpose than to divide.

      Finally, I think we can quite assuredly say that on a number of levels the more common groups are now oppressed.  I myself have lost a job because I was told I was the wrong color. If that is not oppression or racism what is it?

      You cannot solve oppression or racism with more of the same it just perpetuates it forever.  But none of those groups/orgs pushing that stuff believe in it, it is all about control and divide and conquer.

      #297907

      There are media “ghouls” on all sides.

      Of course, but this is a right wing forum with one person who does not hold the same right wing values VS the rest. I don’t need to convince you people here that the left plays dirty as 95% of the content here is basically ”woke=bad” and ”they are grooming our children” so I see no point in arguing for that.

      I usually write here when I want to give my perspective on topics that go against what everyone else here believes and for example on this thread I just want people to understand that trans people are not responsible for more mass shootings and shouldn’t be profiled based on their identity like many right winger commentators seem to do. I’m worried that on top of having mass shootings happening on a regular basis without any counter measures taken, clowns like Tucker Carlson succeed to have his audience believe that trans people are violent or dangerous when they already are a marginalized community fighting for the right to live and be left alone.

      And you have 2 people on this 1 small forum telling you they find the term CIS offensive.  Yet you find nothing wrong with it.  I bet if we were openly in any other group you would be fine to abide by our wishes.

      if it hurts your feelings then I will not use the term anymore, sure. But I’ve never heard anyone before say it’s offensive, as it literally is the correct term to refer to people who are ”normal” exactly like heterosexual, which is not a slur as far as I know. The N word and the F word for gay people are slurs coined when the groups were oppressed and were always used as a derogatory way as they were second class citizens, so I can’t comprehend how a word that is an official word that describes a non-trans person is offensive but alright.

      You seem just fine with using identity politics yourself and that is what that term is it has no other purpose than to divide.

      You can twist and turn this in any way as we all have been discussing identity politics here, but when it comes to mass shootings it’s always the same song and dance. People on the left wants to restrict guns and have stricter background checks and the right wants to try literally anything except that, but the one time it’s a trans shooter the right suddenly wants to play identity politics and the left now has to not only push for gun restrictions and simultaneously defend trans people.

      I don’t start a thread here about ”straight white male commits a shooting” and neither does anyone else here but oh lord when one (1) trans people does it someone just has to make a thread to point out it was a trans person and the LGBT community is doing all they can to defend it etc.

      Finally, I think we can quite assuredly say that on a number of levels the more common groups are now oppressed.  I myself have lost a job because I was told I was the wrong color. If that is not oppression or racism what is it?

      I don’t agree with that. For every time a straight white male (assuming you are one) gets oppressed for being a straight white male, there are countless of minorities facing something similar.

      You had an encounter with a racist and you should report that person for sure (another reason why I’m in favor of labor unions), but there are not dozens of laws and hundreds of bills regulating and restricting straight white males specifically.

      On top of having to face everyday-life encounters with transphobic/homophobic people and having dozens of laws and hundreds of bills which restrict on how to live your life, LGBT people are also at way bigger risk of violent hate crimes. So no, I doubt your life is more restricted or you are worse off than an average trans person.

      #297910
      Vknid
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        Let me try to summarize a few things so my response is not 5 pages long.

        First, I would not consider this a right wing forum.  It is a mistake often made by many to assume that “does not align exactly with me” = the other side.  I have talked to many folks on here that do not agree with me on many a topic. I personally try not to label anyone and let what they think speak for itself and not assume anything.

        Now with that said I always respond to you because I am open to other ideas and thoughts and I enjoy talking about things even is there is disagreement. If I only took in information I agreed with I would rarely learn anything new.

        Yes I find “CIS” offensive.  And even if we say well its not as historically offensive as other words it does not take away from the fact it is used as a pejorative quite often.  I have seen MANY instances where people publicly took offense to it.

        The mass shooting thing is like most any crisis.  It is hijacked by those in power and on different “teams” to use for their own purposes.  At the end of the day nothing good happens and the actual issues are never even mentioned.  Are guns an issue?  No.  Will more background checks help? No.  Will putting a gun on every street corner help?  No.  The issue is that you have broken people with no direction willing to harm and kill other people.  THAT is the problem.  Is it a mental illness thing?  That is merely a symptom.  The real issue is why is there mass mental illness and a willingness to harm others?

        This entire thought paradigm that X,Y and Z groups are oppressed and groups A,B and C are not at this point in the game is just political nonsense meant to keep people divided.  Is there racism and sexism in this country?  Yes. Is it systemic or en masse no.  I can point out to you people that hate black folks and I can point to people that hate white folks.  Same goes for gay and straight.  The issue is not that one hates more than the other and we need equal hate its that we need not hate at all  anywhere on any side.  The idea that we can solve racism/sexism with racism and sexism is moronic in my opinion.  We should all be seeking common ground not reasons to be divided.

        #297913

        It’s not just the term “Cis,” but all the other pronouns that nobody knows of that were just dropped and then, they even use state authoritarian tyrannical force against those who don’t use the pronouns that no one has ever heard of. It is true oppression.

        #309165

        Is anyone surprised?

        #309166

        And I read an article where tech industry is censoring it.  FB  (fascist bitch) not only currently blocks Canadian news on its platform, but this story as well.  No surprise on either.

        #309182
        Vknid
        Moderator

          There is a larger picture here we all need to zoom out and see.  We need not look at the news and think about what helps our tribe and what does not.  We need to understand that we are in tribes because we have been lured into them by the governments and the powers that be.   The question we should be asking is why are we in tribes at all.

          The issue is NOT that a trans person killed people.  The issue is not that a black man or a white man kills people.  The root of the entire issue is that you have hopeless folks whom no longer see any value in life.  They see no point in existence.  So to them extinguishing it means no more than picking a leaf off a tree.

          We have to reestablish a common morality, place value on ALL life and work for the benefit of society and not just for the self.

           

           

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          #309212

          I hope the victims and their families were told all of this before they tried to censor it from the public. If not, this is vile and disgusting. They have as much right to know as we why this nutjob  did what he did.

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          #309246
          Vknid
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            The entire engine that powers the radical left is fueled by nothing but hatred.  It has to be because due to the Marxism and CRT thought processes everything is about oppressor and oppressee.   So every group outside of white male is told they are being held back intentionally even if they don’t see it and that they should work against their oppressors.   And in this case of this shooting this person believed that Christian white people are so evil and less than human that they need to be killed.

            Everyone will quasi defend this and say it’s mental illness.  It could be.  But simply being capable of killing multiple people is not a sign of mental illness, just a sign that you place no value on life.  If killing 1 person is not automatically mental illness than killing 2 or 3 isn’t either.

            We have these mass events because society is sick.  It has been infected intentionally.  We need to stop treating the symptoms and treat the illness.

            Guns are not the problem.  Mental illness is not by in large the issue.  Trans or whatever else itself is not the issue.

            Being so full of  hatred and misplaced blame while following a dogma that leads to misery and hopelessness such that you see no value in any life, THAT is the problem.

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