plastic bag ban leaves some customers saddled with mounds of reusable bags

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    plastic bag ban leaves some customers saddled with mounds of reusable bags

    When Walmart banned single-use plastic checkout bags in April, customer Larry Grant applauded the move — until he found himself drowning in reusable bags.

    Each week, Grant orders Walmart groceries for pickup at a depot near his home in Toronto. Due to the plastic bag ban, the retailer now packs his items in reusable bags — new ones for each order.

    How many are we talking about?

    Grant estimates he has acquired about 300 over the past six months.

    Nice.

    But the well-intentioned war on plastic bags has had an unintended consequence: As a growing number of retailers eliminate them, some shoppers are amassing piles of reusable bags — more than they could ever reuse.

    Now here comes the problems.

    CBC News interviewed several Walmart grocery delivery customers who said that they’re swimming in reusable bags and that the retailer has simply replaced one environmental problem with another.

    “Banning the plastic bags was a great move, but it wasn’t thought through,” Grant said. On this day, the weekly groceries for his family of four were delivered in eight reusable Walmart bags. Two of the bags each contained just one item.

    But it is good PR!  Using reusables.

    Reusable bags are typically a better alternative — if they earn their keep. Several studies have found the bags must be used a number of times for them to have a less harmful impact on the environment than flimsy, single-use plastic bags.

    Explain:

    “Generally speaking, a reusable bag requires more energy and carbon to make relative to a single-use plastic bag,” said Cal Lakhan, a research scientist with the faculty of environmental and urban change at York University in Toronto.

    “It tends to be durable and have significantly higher quality, but that higher quality comes at a cost.”

    Costs! ! !  You mean there is a down side to reusables!

    A 2020 United Nations study estimated that in order for it to have less impact on the environment than a single-use plastic bag, a cotton bag needs to be used 50 to 150 times, while a durable, non-woven polypropylene bag (such as the blue Walmart one) must be used 10 to 20 times.

    But if people order food, groceries, etc. for pickup or delivery, when will they ever get to reuse them?

    “It just creates more waste, which is what we’re trying to avoid in the first place,” he said. “We can’t return them, we can’t do much with them. There are better ways of doing this.”

    Answer: as of right now, the don’t/can’t!

    Paper Bags needs to be reused 4-8 times

    Low Density polyethylene 5-10 times

    Durable, non-woven polypropylene 10-20 times

    Cotton 50-150 times.

     

    And with the feds pushing for a nation wide ban on single use plastic bags without thinking of the consequences, we got this easily seen problem if they just put some thought to it.  I guess such consequences for policy making is NOT high on job requirements.  Hey, our policy will create a BIGGER environmental problem that what we are replacing it with.  That will be someone else’s problem.  Look how great we are!  Praise us for making such policies.

    #289648
    Vknid
    Moderator

      Politicians rarely consider any consequences beyond what gets them votes for reelection.

      But like California keeps voting in Gavin Newsome, Canada keeps voting in Trudeau and of course here we have Biden.  Odd how all over the west hated officials run things and keep getting “voted” in.

      • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by Vknid.
      #289652
      DigiCat
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        So the people who so despreately wanted to ban plastic bags and go for reusable ones are also the same people who are too goddamn lazy to go out and do their own shopping and actually reuse the reusable bags

        Well fuck ’em! They can drown in their sea of reusable bags

        #289741
        VenomKitetsu
        Premium

          Plastic bags are great for containing cat box shit to toss out. Also, look at how much recycled material is in so many other things nowadays. Straws, To Go food boxes, etc. There’s no way plastic bags can’t be replaced with some environment friendly stuff and we’re all fine.

           

          I have a couple reusable bags, which are great. My bemusement is that the crowd hating on plastic bag usage is probably capable of pushing to just have different material used, or start using their own reusable bags too. They’re also not that concerned about constantly tossing out thousands of face masks when if we all just used cloth masks from the start, the planet would be better for it.

          • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by VenomKitetsu.
          #289744
          Vknid
          Moderator

            Remember the reason we use plastic bags?  Because 10-20 years ago people were concerned there would be no trees left because of paper bags because back then idiot activists threw a fit over things they knew little about.  Just like now.

            #289759
            Mustangride1
            Moderator

              Was just at Wal*mart, got plastic bags.

              Solution vote out idiots in government who make stupid laws.

              #289765
              Vknid
              Moderator

                @Mustangride1

                If we did that no one would be left.  Maybe that’s a good thing.

                #289767

                It would make little difference if it is a party’s policy.  So unless you can get to those whom create those policies, changing the NPCs whose name appear on a ballot won’t matter as any NPC of the party will vote for the party’s policies.

                For businesses, is it the CEO, the board of governors, activist investors, who make those policies?

                Once again, when it comes to such policies, less “feelings” and more “facts” are needed before you jump to conclusions.

                Sadly, the PR of “we are getting rid of….” sounds so good that the long term consequences are far from their minds.

                We will worry about any consequences…. at a later date.  Let’s gets enjoy this “feeling” of thinking we are doing good NOW.

                #289769
                Vknid
                Moderator

                  “We will worry about any consequences…. at a later date.  Let’s gets enjoy this “feeling” of thinking we are doing good NOW”

                  This is how every bad politician gets reelected to be honest.

                  #289785
                  VenomKitetsu
                  Premium

                    Takes the pressure off you when your admin just passes on issues to the next dolt who also thinks he’s gonna be a miracle worker.

                    • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by VenomKitetsu.
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