Respect Is Earned, Not Given

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  • #231197

    Wise words to live by

    #231202

    Well said.

    The problem for most is not that people think or feel a certain way. It’s that some try to force you to accept it unconditionally or even celebrate it.

    As a Christian I believe the gay lifestyle is sinful. I also believe that transgender folks as a whole need help because they suffer from a mental issue. Those are my personal beliefs and if you disagree that is perfectly fine.

    Does that have any bearing on how I treat such folks? It does NOT.

    Why do I think that?

    We are ALL children of God and we are ALL sinners and do wrong.

    That means we are equal as people and in the eyes of God and I choose to treat people as equals and I try to love them all the same. Yes that is difficult, but that is the cross we as humans bare.

    #231212

    The belief that one is ENTITLED.

    They equate being rice or famous or being a celebrity means those automatically gives them respect… it does not.

    Treats others as you wish them to treat you.

    Treat us with respect, you will earn our respect.

    Treat us as being below you, (Hey Brie!  none for your films/ideas are made for human consumption), well I don’t have to tell you what The Big Banana Jeremy has to say on that… with what over 200 vids and counting.

    #231217
    comicsgate
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    Less respect all the time as civilization collapses under the weight of invaders and such.

    What I do like is his line about “this ain’t no fucking BINGO card!” It makes me laugh for some reason. Rolls around in my head. Makes me want to shout at strangers about their damn virtue-signal BINGO cards. Yahtzee, you ignorant slut.

    #231225

    Respect is a two way street. Both parties must earn the respect of each other! A big part of that is even if you both disagree on something you should respect the others belief. There use to be a time where Politics, Sex and Religion were topics not talked about for damn good reason, they do nothing but destroy friendships and families.

    But here we have it now, the most divisive issues, ones that have causes Wars in the past are again front and center. Again they are causing hatred, division and mistrust. They have caused life long friends to separate, they have causes family members to stop speaking and Yes there have even been attacks and murders because of them.

    Respect is not longer about the person, but about their views vs your views, and if they are not with you and do as you say and think. They are the enemy. Respect is earned, but it is earned through actions and time. It is earned most when two people are on completely opposite ends of an issue and they can sit down, talk about it, come to some type of mutual arrangement or conclusion. In the end they walk away still friends.

    #231249

    I want to point out that these forums are an example of how people with different ideas and thoughts can still discuss stuff. I have had nothing but good honest discussions here whether the other person agreed with me or not. I very much value such things.

    Agreement is not a requirement for good discussion. Only patience and understanding.

    Unfortunately, people are becoming trained to hate each other if they don’t agree and that goes for all “sides” involved.

    #231344

    The normality / common sense back in the day was that people would get along even if they had different ideals or opinions. The important thing was being a good person, having a good heart. If you see someone hurt are you gonna help them or not, that’s what makes a difference.    Well, Not anymore…

    Right now, they want to normalize division. If you find someone with a different opinion you should censor them and stay away. People who don’t promote what they want are evil and need to be destroyed. This is what they preach.

    #231348

    @Hazu

    I agree with you 100%.

    People used to seek common ground no matter what. Now they look for points of division intentionally. And if they can claim offense it’s like some sort of badge of honor.

    #231350

    yeah, it’s a disgrace. :(

    Sometimes i try to think positive… but I wonder… if those people see someone in the street being assaulted/robbed, I’m really not sure if they would step up right away and help or if they would 1st check what’s the ethnicity of the victim or even ask them if they voted for trump of if they’re wearing a mask (lol). It’s this bad…
    That doesn’t happen in “the other side”, I see patriots saving lives every time, no matter who needs help.

    #231352

    As a Christian I believe the gay lifestyle is sinful. I also believe that transgender folks as a whole need help because they suffer from a mental issue. Those are my personal beliefs and if you disagree that is perfectly fine.

    Here I think the factor that matters is how you behave. Today, most people (myself included) believe being gay is not wrong, sinful or punishable in any way and believing so is an outdated thought. Personally I don’t care what you think but the problem is if people are hostile or discriminate gay people because of their own beliefs.

    #231364

    @SuperSpynic_Speed

    I don’t believe being gay is wrong. I did not say that. No one’s existence is wrong. I said the lifestyle is wrong, meaning the sexual activity.

    And while I am a Conservative I am also a Libertarian. Yes, I believe the activity is wrong. However, ultimately, that’s between you and the Lord.

    In short, you do you, just don’t except me to celebrate it.

    As far as it being an outdated thought, I am quite sure the Devil would want everyone to think the entire Bible is foolishness and that there is no such thing as right and wrong.

    As I mentioned in another post their is either a standard for human behavior or there isn’t. If we “move the bar” constantly on that then there is essentially no standard and the logical conclusion is anything goes. And I think you are already seeing that effect in the world today.

    Please do not misunderstand this as an argument with you. It is simply a discussion. We can agree to disagree, that’s no problem.

    #231367

    As I mentioned in another post their is either a standard for human behavior or there isn’t. If we “move the bar” constantly on that then there is essentially no standard and the logical conclusion is anything goes. And I think you are already seeing that effect in the world today.

    Free to agree to disagree, but for me anything goes, so long as you are not harming others

    #231368

    @Digicat

    I am quite sure a pedophile believes he/she is “loving” a child and not at all harming them. I am sure the rioters who looted and burned stores in the various liberal cities in the US did not believe they were harming anyone either, in fact I am certain they believed they were helping.

    And this is my point exactly. Either right and wrong is subjective (which means it essentially does not exist) or we follow a strict code that does not change. I personally like to stick to the one set of rules not man made which are the 10 commandments, IE Christian/Jewish values.

    This is not to say legality and morality are the same thing. I am speaking morally here and ethically not about laws. Of course laws should reflect the code but one should not equal the other of course.

    #231371

    @Vknid

    Let me clarify my point, by “so long as you are not harming others” i do not mean do whatever you think is “loving” “helping”, ’cause someone who thinks by harming someone they’re “loving” or “helping” is, in the simplest terms possible, fucked up, someone can claim they are “loving” or “helping” others all they want, but if those others are suffering, then no matter what is claimed, they are being harmed, and that doesn’t go

    #231386

    @DigiCat

    I 100% fully understand what you are saying and to a large degree I agree with it. I am playing Devils advocate and trying to demonstrate that right/wrong cannot be subjective and often times it is and it causes a creep of more wrong things seen as right.

    Another example. FGM is seen by many as a barbaric practice. And I believe in much of the US is specifically illegal. However, in a number of Muslim communities in the US it goes on because they deem it as not something that is wrong even though I believe you or I could easily make the argument it causes harm. And I have seen more than 1 story how in those communities (who like to vote in politicians that support them) people look the other way.

    Again, I am on the same page with you I am just trying to show there is a creep in right/wrong because it has been deemed subjective.

    “Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it.”
    ― William Penn

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