Shootings in the US

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October 10, 2020 at 11:02 am #194378
Legatus_Legionis
Shootings in the US

Well, go figure. But we won’t hear a word about this unless someone on Fox or NewsMax or maybe Breitbart brings it up.

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Shootings in the US
10,000,000 POLICE ARRESTS LAST YEAR in the US
Interesting info! – Re: 10 Million Arrests – Take A Look
Last year there were 10 million arrests by police…

If anyone is uncomfortable with the accuracy of these numbers you can research at: Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program — FBI https://www.fbi.gov/services/ cjis/ucr

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Report and the Washington Post, last year there were 10 million arrests by police…10 Million!!
Out of those 10 MILLION arrests there were 1,004 officer involved fatalities.
Out of those 1,004 officer involved fatalities 41 were unarmed.
Out of those 41-officer involved unarmed fatalities (now you might find it hard to believe I know), but out of 41 deaths, now hear this…
19 were white, 9 were black –
Now 1 is 1 too many, but to me 41 out of 10 million is a pretty small percentage! (.00041%)
Now ask me how many police officers were killed in the line of duty… c’mon, take a wild guess…
89 police officers , but where was the news media when those took place????
Just to bring it home, take a guess as to how many people were shot in CHICAGO just this last weekend. In Chicago last weekend 82 people were shot within a 48-hour period.
Of those 82 people 19 people died.
Yes, you got it. In Chicago last weekend alone, there were more black people killed by (wait for it…) black people than were killed by police in all of last year!
The hypocrisy is mind blowing. Now go ahead, please do the research and see for yourself.
Thank you to Bernard Kerik, Former NYPD Police Commissioner for sharing this information.

I don’t know when this was written, but the numbers don’t lie.
October 10, 2020 at 12:38 pm #194380
Anonymous
The fact that there are 10,000,000 arrests in America is a problem.

It completely illustrates just how arresting people has become a big business. Every arrest literally leads to a minimum of $1,000 in fines, fees, bonds and some people have $40 to $50 thousand to pay.

America is a police state and Americans need to wake up to this reality.
October 10, 2020 at 1:54 pm #194387
Route_69
I was arrested once five years ago for being intoxicated and for verbal abuse that I apparently yelled at the bouncer for not letting me enter a nightclub because I was too drunk (which I don’t remember because I was out of it – I woke up in custody), but I only spent the night in jail to sober up and they dropped the charge. Most arrests are petty things like that and I’m not complaining about it – the law has to be enforced. But our countries have a bigger problem with civil lawsuits – everything is over legislated to the point where if you call someone by a wrong pronoun you could be dragged into court. Also if a burglar slips and falls on your property he can take you to the cleaners! Personally I would take care of the problem myself – he wouldn’t have told anyone what he was doing and whose house he was going to hit and at what time lol. I don’t trust the law so I would gladly take matters into my own hands. I’m not getting robbed or sued by something that has no worth to me if I can help it.
October 10, 2020 at 2:24 pm #194392
MrDragonbane
The commies dont care bout facts.

Nearly all shootings are gang related. Most of those are black on black
October 10, 2020 at 2:49 pm #194395
StephenDutton
Don’t they also try to hide where these shootings are taking place so they don’t have to talk about why their oppressive gun control fails to stop shootings whereas areas that allow better access to firearms by citizens are safer?
October 10, 2020 at 3:13 pm #194396
Legatus_Legionis
Police are in the position where they have to enforce the law morons create.

So more arrests = more visits to the courts = more lawyers and judges = more control on the people.

Just look at the Clinton/Biden criminal laws they created.

It also does not help all those people to knowingly commit crimes (rape, shoplifting, stealing, muggings, murder, etc.)
October 10, 2020 at 5:25 pm #194425
Route_69
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Guns,_Less_Crime
October 10, 2020 at 5:28 pm #194427
Legatus_Legionis
Sorry, but those advocating gun control/confiscation IMO don’t know how to read, let alone understand such common sense things as this.
October 10, 2020 at 5:47 pm #194436
Route_69
I wouldn’t dream of wasting time talking to those imbeciles – it’s just a big circlejerk on both sides. Words exist to confuse you to act against your interest and in someone else’s interest while thinking that it benefits you somehow, and if something is logical you’ll do it without the need for someone to verbalize it to you.
October 11, 2020 at 4:02 am #194500
SuperSoynic_Speed
The author didn’t do much research about countries outside of America apparently. The statements about countries like Switzerland and Finland are based on quickly looking at surface level statistics with a confirmation bias.
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October 11, 2020 at 6:32 am #194512
Route_69
Like you’re an expert in the book and didn’t just click the first Google search result that came up when you typed “more guns less crime debunked.” GTFO.
October 11, 2020 at 8:18 am #194515
MrDragonbane
What city in GA was it that required every homeowner to be a gun owner? Kenosha? That city hasnt had a robbery in 10 years. Hasnt had a murder in nearly 20.

Now look at Chiraq; There were 48 shootings last weekend.

Armed citizens are safer than disarmed subjects. Yes I said it Chiraq has subjects.
October 11, 2020 at 9:18 am #194522
SuperSoynic_Speed
Wrong, I know for a fact that the amount of firearms in at least those two countries have nothing to do with crime rates. Especially Finland has extremely strict laws regarding firearms, and the weapons people there own are pretty much exclusively for hunting or sports & hobbies.

The author of the book probably did what you accuse me of doing. He did some surface level research on countries with high firearm possessions in comparison with the population and then looked at the crime rates. Lazy research, leading to false claims. Just saying.

Again, the low crime rates have nothing to do with the amount of firearms in those countries. Try again.
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October 11, 2020 at 11:45 am #194531
Route_69
>Having guns for hunting/sports is not a deterrent for crime

So you think that a home invader will go “this homeowner is likely to have guns, but I’m safe breaking in, tying them all up and raping his daughter because those are hunting/sports guns and not the people-killing-type guns.”

No you ignoramus – they’re not gonna do that shit if there is a gun, and they’re less likely to even think about doing something like that if there is even a possibility of a gun or guns being in any given house.
October 11, 2020 at 12:23 pm #194536
SuperSoynic_Speed
Normally yes, but in Switzerland and Finland, the number of people owning a gun isn’t that high in the end, especially when it’s usually one person owning more than one, so the chance of a person actually owning a gun is small.

And again, in Finland the gun laws are really strict. You can’t get weapons for self defense etc, can’t carry around weapons and even if someone breaks into your house, you’re not allowed to shoot unless your or someone else’s life is in immediate danger. Even then, you will get taken to court to review if there would’ve been another way to deal woth the situation.

For example, if someone breaks in and steals something, and is running away with money and valuables, you can’t shoot or you’ll go to jail.

So yes, I still claim it doesn’t affect the crime rates in any way. To summarize, weapons in Finland and Switzerland are for hunting or hobbies. If you use them for other purposes, you’ll get thrown in the jail.
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