The value of life

Some life is worth less than other life. We make that distinction every day when we consider animal or plant life below human life.

And no, not all human life is equal either. An Osama Bin Laden or Al Baghdadi or some pedophile monster is not as valuable as the life of an Albert Einstein or Beethoven or Da Vinci.

Can we know at or before birth who will become what? We can’t. But the parents can. Only bad people abort their own young (medical reasons, rape victims etc not included here). Good people don’t do it. Since all character traits have been shown to be genetic, abortion is merely one of nature’s failsafes to de-pollute the gene pool. It’s genetic hygiene.

Take one good look at the crowds screaming about their right to murder babies. Subhuman freaks with deformed bodies and heads and dead eyes. You want them to procreate? You want more of them? At the expense of hardworking people, who’s tax dollars would subsidize it?

Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake. Abortion is a mistake. Let them.

No, not all people ate equal, that is a lie.  a noble sentiment yes but nonetheless a lie.  Even at birth we have people born blind, without a limb, with mental impairments.  Then as we age the division of equality is even more apparent, some are taller, some are shorter, some are stronger and some are weaker.

What you are trying to say is not wasted on me, but it is an unrealistic view in light of the simplest of truths. The most direct is “free-will.” Even if everything truly was equal, free will is a great divider. Some people will Kill, Rape, Rob etc. They do so out of that free will and yes I am for Capital Punishment as a dead offender of the most hideous of crimes is no longer a threat to anyone, nor are they a burden on society.

People disagreeing is 100% acceptable, even better is when they sit down to find what they agree on and work to come up with a solution based on that. I would not be friends with anyone who always agreed with me. Not even my wife agrees with me all the time,  but in going on now 17 years together we have NEVER had a fight or argument, NEVER! When something comes up we discus it and find the best possible solution even if it is not the one, one of us wanted.

Our Justice system has been perverted to an ideology that is foreign to the world at this point in some states. A criminal should pay a harsh sentence for a crime, not let out and his actions blamed on his up-bringing or society being hard etc. It should be Harsh and fitting the crime. Our Politicians should be held to the exact same standard the rest of us are. From the day they granted themselves Sovereign Immunity to today this second, they  destroyed the (All are equal under the law) That extension of protections goes out to all government officials and offices, putting government above the law.

You cannot have equality until that is removed. I remember people scream “TWO TIER JUSTICE SYSTEM” either they were blind or stupid, because it has always been that way. People ask; how will government function if its not protect? Simple obey the laws you wrote or are charged with enforcing and you will function just fine. In fact Sovereign Immunity comes from our English Heritage and the phrase “rex non potest peccare, meaning “the king can do no wrong. Or in our case The Government can do no wrong.

Qualified Immunity, is closer to being a equal system, yet still has flaws, the biggest is you still must get permission to sue. Though much easier now than in years past , it is still difficult. If Government was to adopt this form  of immunity’s  it would go much further to equality. Government does need some immunity or it would shut down from all the lawsuits. But those immunity’s must be “good faith” immunity. If a politicians lies even in congress, they should be held liable for slander and defamation as well as potential removal of office. If a Politicians insights violence they must be held accountable as well. But that accountability must be in a court of law as the Constitution clearly dictates that Congress does not have that power and for good reason. Scotus has said it multiple times.

You cannot have that equality you talk about when it has never existed, that is a dream. The Nation has to change the political landscape or more precisely the political protections to create a equal system under the law. Until then we will never be equal.

Your musings are still false, it is a great “idea” but that is all it is.  Human life has never been equal. History teaches us that, there are groups who saw life as another slave and to this day still see it that way.

You are talking about a IDEA, it is the same one our founders had. They did not look at all men as being equal even. The owned Slaves and had Indentured servants, they were certainly not equal to our founders even at the writing of the Declaration, they were below them and not even protected by that very Constitution that was written to make men equal. Because women were not even equal in it.  It is your belief and a good one spiritually. But its not in truth and not even logically when so much evidence proves it is not true.

That is the hard cold fact of life. Some lives will never truly be equal accept in a spiritual idealistic way. And lets be truthful about that as well, some religions say others lives are not valued as equal.

Something civilized society can aspire to certainly, but to obtain that for all people is just not possible, at least not now.

Survivors of abortion, showing that they are not the parody being shouted at us to justify the attempts to kill them before birth.

Life Institute

And some excerpts…

Gianna’s Story

Since she discovered the truth about her birth, Gianna has been a highly effective champion for the pro-life cause. With an angelic singing voice, a winning personality, and a uniquely compelling and heroic survival story, she has dramatically impacted audiences worldwide. She also testified before the Constitution Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee on April 22, 1996. On that occasion she said:

I am happy to be alive. I almost died. Every day I thank God for life. I do not consider myself a by-product of conception, a clump of tissue, or any other of the titles given to a child in the womb. I do not consider any person conceived to be any of those things.

Brandi’s story

My birthday was intended to be my death day. I am an abortion survivor. I am alive today and I represent the reality of abortion. My birth mom NEVER lost her parental rights being that her sister was ALWAYS there for me. My birth mom isn’t the one who informed me of what she’d done and I was left in the dark until the age of 14 about the truth of my birth and why I wasn’t what most considered “normal” being that I was sent to a “special” school as a toddler until my Kindergarten year when they somehow decided I was anti-virus enough to be with the regular kids in my grade. I was teased and picked on for my differences but though the days of my youth were tough not having much love and support from the woman who gave birth to me nor my biological father, I learned to use the tests and trials to make me stronger instead of tear me down as they were intended.

Although I’ve faced physical challenges and obstacles, I use my victory over them as an example and a testimony of being a living eyewitness to the power of God at work in everything which makes a difference in the lives of others. I’m gifted in my mission of using the challenges and obstacles I’ve overcome to make a difference in the lives of others. As a nationally recognized advocate for life, I travel the country being a voice for the voiceless, defending the defenseless and forgotten, and reaching out to those facing or who have experienced the trauma of abuse, struggles of adversity, and or the pain of loss!

As I said in another, similar discussion, it’s not our place to visit the sins of the father and/or mother upon the unborn child. These people are not the caricatures Wisdom is trying to portray them as being. Simply pointing at parents who have acted wrongly and saying that justifies allowing them to murder their child is at least as vile a way of thinking as that of the parents who decide to kill the child. Perhaps it is even more vile, because it is so filled with self-righteousness and proud condescension.

Edited to insert a needed “not”.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by Audie.

@Wisdom

The Country has not “fallen” The Scotus last slew of rulings have turned many wrongs a right. But that aside, There are Problems in the country, but show me one that does not have problems. In American we have a open and free press, all be they for the most part dishonest anymore and more opinion than fact. Other Nations have a very censored press, even a censorship to social media by the state.

Our problems here as I said are in the states. Mine is very open and very free. California is not. It is local, there is an old American saying; “All politics are local” and this is why many people are leaving oppressive states like Cal, Mass, NJ, NY, some just leaving the oppressive cities  to the county.  I would say you are not seeing how good this country is and are either basing your observations on your local area, or what you see in the media and not what the nation truly is.

I have been lucky in life to get to see the Nation, I Still travel yearly to multiple states and get to see and talk to people. The Nation is not in the shape you are trying to paint it in. Yes there are problems, but again all nations have them.