They were always coming for Christianity

Satan hates everything dealing with God, and His creation.

And by making people believe Satan (and evil) does not exist, Satan can do evil and make people move away from God.

Hating the family unit, sacred bond between a husband and his wife.

Hating reproduction (kill your babies), pre-marital sex, adultery, etc.

Hating people (kill in wars, gang violence, murder, abortions, suicides, etc).

Judo-Christianity is in Satan’s way, so Satan’s attack on God’s religion/Commandments/spirituality/heaven/afterlife/etc.

By making small changes, over time becomes big changes when you see how far things have moved.

Ban Christmas (we can’t celebrate Christ’s birth) but we need consumerism of Santa Claws.

Remove the cross from classrooms/public places.

Calls for removal/mention of God from everything.

It IS not just an attack on Christianity, but it is the easiest target for Satan to target from all sides.

It has a moral center Satan hates!  And Satan is using the left and liberalism to attack that moral center, principles, values, etc.

Of course they were. This harkens back to what I wrote some months ago about absolutist and collectivist  ideologies inevitably clashing. Christianity is absolutist, claiming to be in possession of the only valid morality. There is no room for doubt or dissent in Christianity. No matter how good an Atheist, Pagan, Buddhist, Hindusit, Jew etc is, they are bound for hell and in the past were subjected to repression or violence until they submitted.
Marxism learned from the best and copied this.
So did Islam and ever other absolutist ideology out there. Dissent isn’t tolerated.

Sooner or later the strongest, most ruthless, violent of these ideologies will devour the others.

It is only a question wether Marxism or Islam will prevail. My money is on Marxism.

In some ways Christians have only yourselves to blame. You could have made an alliance with the secular right. We tried to warn you what would happen. And it’s really just the beginning.
I predict that within 2 generations Christianity in the US will be all but gone. They’ll vilify Christians to the point they vilify Trump supporters today. People will lose their jobs, the FBI will investigate them for terrorism, there will be show trials and wrongful convictions. Most importantly, kids in school will be brainwashed to hate Christianity. They already are. But they will love the state. The state is life. The state is god.

Maybe they will have one church that is tolerated, kind of like they do in Europe. The churches in Europe are almost all state run and in line with marxism.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by Wisdom.

Well, if you know anything about revelations, everything is synching up to the stuff that goes on in ends times. Ya, people have been saying it was the end times for hundreds of  years. But, the things going on are really making it close. For example. Now would be a really good time for the Anti-Christ to pop up and “save” everyone from the division and hysteria we have everywhere. It would be prime for someone like that to enter the stage right now, almost like things were pushing for it to happen.

I also cannot stand certain, usually left, organizations and groups of people “declaring” something a “hate” symbol. Who are they to decide that? It’s usually laced with  opportunism too. Whatever thing they can use to insult, demean, and silence those not following their singular world view. I knew a guy who had a Thors Hammer on his jacket, because he liked a death metal band called Unleashed who had it in their logo. Well, he was attacked by a group of Sharps/Antifa simply for having it on his jacket because they deemed it a “hate” symbol and assumed he was a “racist” etc etc. Even though he just had it because it had the Unleashed logo with the hammer, and he liked viking mythology. There was no “hate” from this guy, I knew him. Yes, this happened in Portland, Oregon, so no surprise there heh?

@Vknid
Good points. One point I would contend is that they hate god. I see that statement a lot, but I think it missed the mark, since it’s viewed through the lens of someone who believes in god. In my many many years among communists but also regular atheists, I can’t recall a single time I heard anyone express hatred of god. In fact one of most left wing nuts I knew was a god fearing Christian who claimed that communism’s helping the poor and altruism was a pratical means of putting “his Christian values into action.”   Granted, he conveniently ignored all the lgbt stuff, the anti white racism, etc and is even against mass 3rd world immigration, which is why I continue to butt heads with him.
But I digress. The fact remains I never once heard a non-believer say they hate god. I never even heard two Atheists speak about god to each other. It just doesn’t come up. We express our disdain for religion and we sometimes hate religious people, but it’s really hard to hate what you don’t believe in. How best to draw an analogy.

Imagine you’re having a conversation with a Hindu. The Hindu tells you that Brahma built the world and the universe. Alternatively imagine I told you something about Aliens building the pyramids and teaching humans civilization. You naturally think I’m full of it, and express as much in diplomatic terms. I then accuse you of hating Aliens. Or the Hindu accuses you of hating Brahma.
But do you hate Brahma? Do you hate Aliens? No, because you’d feel silly hating them. In order to hate them, you would have to believe they’re real. It’s like hating Santa Claus or the Tooth fairy or the Easter Bunny. You can’t have feelings towards that which doesn’t exist.

Same thing with god. You can only hate god if you believe in god. But you can hate what god stands for.

In the case of communists, god / christianity stands for a competing world view.

“Christianity is not absolutist in a general sense nor do we claim that anyone that does something different is 100% going to hell. That is incorrect.”
Can you explain this? I was always under the impression that it was a very clearly defined set of laws and morals that allowed for no deviation. And historically that was the way it was treated for the most part. I mean they literally burned heretics and infidels at the stake in Europe for centuries.

If you look at Christian nationalist forums like Gab, where they’ve recently been fantasizing about a second holocaust and openly state that their future country will exlude all non-christians, I wonder how mainstream your more tolerant strain is.

You’ll know this better than me: Are there any bible passages that demand tolerance or equal rights toward nonbelievers?

@DarthVengeant  Your buddy needs to get the hell out of Oregon. It’s a garbage state. But what you describe is exactly how absolutist ideologies operate. It doesn’t matter if the hammer was a hate symbol or not. It didn’t matter if he wore it because it’s the logo of a metal band, because he’s an odinist or a real racist or maybe just a blacksmith who likes hammers.
What matters is that it’s not approved by them. That’s the thing with absolutists. It’s either with them or against them.

Bishop Robert Baron schools The Atlantic for suggesting the rosary is ‘an extremist symbol’

Bishop Robert Barron slammed a recent article in The Atlantic as “offensive” Wednesday, warning that America’s new woke religion is resurrecting anti-Catholic bigotry.

And it was OFFENSIVE.

The Bishop warned again that religion is something that transcends conventional politics, suggesting that Catholic prayer via rosaries has “got nothing to do with right-wing or, for that matter, left-wing militant extremism, so I mean, the whole premise of the article is just ridiculous.”

But to the ideology of the toxic extreme far alt-left, anything that does not worship the occult of wokeism is to be attacked.

Bishop Barron pivoted to a much bigger concern about American culture as a whole, the fact that age-old anti-Catholic biases have returned from the religion of woke ideology. He explained, “Behind all this obvious silliness is an old problem in American culture, it’s deep in the American cultural DNA, I’m talking about anti-Catholicism.”

And that it has.  From the time when the protestants and puritans first came to settling in North America, to today, the woke/sjw/left have to problem attaching all mainstream religions (except islam).  The Jewish community DOES push back against anti-semitic attacks, and islam pushes back against ANY/ALL criticisms.  But if a Christian does so, they are attacked for standing up to the attacks on their faith on top of the original attacks!

People will lose their jobs, the FBI will investigate them for terrorism,

This is nothing new, FBI has had strict surveillance over muslims post 9/11

@ Vknid
Sorry I missed your reply over the past few days. Working my way through from the top:

“Either it all means something, or none of it means anything. ”

Certainly true. One of those precludes the other. But that only concerns nihilism, not Atheism.
Nihilism is less of a philosophy than an academic concept. It’s the theoretical antithesis of any existentialist or universlaist debate. Kind of like the number 0 in math. No matter what your system of values, nihilism is always the opposite.
Atheism (or Agnosticism by extension) doesn’t say “nothing has meaning”. Quite the opposite. We’ve had this debate before. There are several atheistic ideologies, including Confucionism, Buddhism and various forms of Hinduism, Marxism, Nietzscheanism, most forms of Libertarianism and so on.  They’re not alike. Nor are they nihilist.
Aside from a tiny fringe minority and nitwit teenage edgelords, Nihilism as an ideology is almost entirely restricted to academia.

Religious and 99.9% of Atheists agree that life has meaning. They just disagree on the why.

“It is a clear set of morals but there are no laws. While on paper it is simple and straightforward, in practice there is much interpretation and deviation due to the complexities of life. And it is a “code” in which we know we will all fail at times but we must keep trying hence the forgiveness part. ”

I’m not sure I understand. Can you provide a practical example of this. You said no human can judge another human. How then would a theoretical christian theocracy deal with a murderer or a child molester if they can’t be judged? How would one deal with someone who openly denies god or openly declares to be homosexual?

Regarding gab:

I literally just opened the start page and saw this by the founder, posted one hour ago. The guy is a jew hating lunatic in the same vein as hitler.

July 2022 Newsletter: https://news.gab.com/2022/07/08/the-old-testament-belongs-to-christ-and-his-people-alone/
“Judaism today is a modern LARP religion, no different than guys who dress up and howl out in the woods to Odin and Thor.”
“They are not the special people that don’t need Jesus. Their religion is fake and a bad joke. ”

And one of Torba’s final twitter posts: “We’re building a parallel Christian society because we are fed up and done with the Judeo-Bolshevik one,” he wrote.

If it walks like a Nazi, quacks like a Nazi… it’s a Nazi.

Regarding those 4 bible passages, I don’t see where those address nonbelievers. John 11:25 in particular seems pretty clearly not addressed at people like me.

But granted, to my knowledge there are no passages like in the Qur’an which openly demands that non-believers be killed.
On that note, I have yet to figure out the role Islam plays in the elite’s plans. I wonder if they’re simply using Islam as a weapon against Israel or if their plans extend beyond that. As a violent religion who’s followers routinely butcher anyone even accused of blasphemy without trial, it’s certainly the perfect religion for their future state in which any form is dissent must be eradicated.

Maybe they will have some form of Islam as state religion. But something in me doubts that is their plan. I think the western elites are just using using Islam and will probably crush them after they cease to be useful.