Ukraine, a war or a money laundering event?

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  • #294875

    The Nordsteram pipeline was a lie and propaganda.

    wait, are you now saying the explosion never happened? I said according to ”my news” there was an explosion and investigations are ongoing and nothing can be said for sure, now you think that is a lie and propaganda?

    Are there BioLabs in Ukraine? In the other thread, I posted video from a guy who says that is truth.

    I really hope you take some time to reflect on things. You do realize all your statements are extremely wobbly when it comes to evidence, it’s like you’re throwing these conspiracy theories left and right and hope some of them stick on the wall. You were never defended your position about ”Ukrainian genocide on christians” after I refuted it, you never defended your position on ”white genocide caused by decreasing birthrate” after I refuted that, you just abandon your claim and come up with a new statement (=conspiracy theory).

    Come on, you yap about fake news and propaganda but take a minute to consider your own sources and how strong they are as evidence. You use Russian government twitter (and I am sure you are smart enough to understand Russian military news is one of the most dishonest agitprop out there), literally ”a guy in this video said so” as well as a text from Seymour Hersh where he doesn’t even back up the claims with anything, he was just speculating about why America in theory could have done it. Your statements really don’t hold any ground and crumble pretty quick.

    Also, this conflict has been ongoing since 2014.

    I know that, so what?

    NATO propaganda is outright lies and falsehoods

    but you choose to believe Russian news? Russia which has a less free media and more disinformation than any NATO country? And what about news outside NATO countries? Are those also fake news?

    My point is that some kind of alarm has to go off in your head when the information source that are acceptable to you are information from Russia, China, North Korea and Iran which back the ”actually Russia is just having a special operation to cleanse Ukraine and the West from the child eating pedo vampires”.

    Anyway, to find some common ground I think we both want the war to end. What do you think would be the best and most fair way to end the war? My suggestion would be Russians packing their gear and getting the fuck out of Ukraine back to their own shithole country

    #294879

    Nordstream happened and was not done by Russia, as was claimed by propaganda media.

    You didn’t refute anything. White Christians die while Zelensky gets paid and buys mansions and real estate for his family and gang.

    You did not refute anything in the sources. Names and specifics were listed. Locations were shown. I thought the dossier looked pretty cool. Just because it comes from a source that you do not approve of, to just call it “propaganda” is meaningless when all is propaganda. It must be shown why it is not factual, which you did not do.

    So, BioLabs in Ukraine should be a pretty simple thing to look up. I saw where Finland is building a wall to keep Russians out. Really hope FinTards aren’t going to lecture Americans about their borders.

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    #294881

    This is who you trust?

    There’s no way I’d trust one word from a sissy like that.
    Nothing. Zilch. Nada.
    There’s no way I’d ever take orders from someone like that. I do not even see him as a man.

    #294891

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    Someone sent me the video with Greg Hunter and Alex Newman. It was not what I expected. I was impressed by it. He does not mention the word genocide, but he does see the war as a staged killing. As an actor, Zelensky is not convincing, as he cannot even act like he cares about Ukrainians. Neither does the world. They care about money and weapons and war more than they care about Ukrainians. It’s really a shame.  Zelensky talks about money more than Ukrainians. I had no idea how many groups there were over there vying for power and independence and nationalism. The war might just be cover for dictatorship, tyranny and murder just to get rid of groups within the country that are problematic.

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    #294894

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    #295048

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    #295052

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    #295332

    Nordstream happened and was not done by Russia, as was claimed by propaganda media.

    Just because it comes from a source that you do not approve of, to just call it “propaganda” is meaningless when all is propaganda.

    How ironic that you said this.

    Many western countries have propaganda for sure, which is why it’s important to consume different sources and reach your own conclusion. I consume American, British, Finnish, Swedish, German and Norwegian news from both left and right wing perspectives, you seem to consume mostly American right wing news and apparently also Russian news. News flash, Russian news is some of the most propagandized news. My point is, the news I consume has never stated Russia did the Nordstream attack, it is under investigation. I couldn’t care less about you saying some  news claim it was 100% Russia.

    You didn’t refute anything. White Christians die while Zelensky gets paid and buys mansions and real estate for his family and gang.

    You know I did. First of all, white christians aren’t the only ones dying. Secondly, who is the aggressor in this war? Who is the one attacking and causing a lethal conflict? And I will repeat what I said earlier against your false claim, Ukraine is shutting down all Russia and Kreml linked orthodox churches in Ukraina. That is not all christian churches. It is not even all orthodox churches in Ukraine. You are, objectively, wrong and refuse to accept it and just spew fragile white victim garbage about boohoo ”white genocide”.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-orders-probe-into-russian-linked-church-says-zelenskiy-2022-12-01/

    So, BioLabs in Ukraine should be a pretty simple thing to look up.

    it was disinformation started by Russian state media.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/60711705

    https://www.rand.org/blog/2022/09/debunking-russian-lies-about-biolabs-at-upcoming-un.html

    https://www.npr.org/2022/03/25/1087910880/biological-weapons-far-right-russia-ukraine

    I saw where Finland is building a wall to keep Russians out. Really hope FinTards aren’t going to lecture Americans about their borders.

    It’s a great move from Finland. We do not need any Russians coming from their shit hole here illegally. Supporting Putin the dictator in slaughtering Ukrainians but when it’s their turn to go to the front lines they suddenly wanna run away from their ”great home country”.

    #295333

    There’s no way I’d trust one word from a sissy like that.
    Nothing. Zilch. Nada.
    There’s no way I’d ever take orders from someone like that. I do not even see him as a man.

    I feel like I’m having a lobotomy reasing your arguments. That’s such a weak reasoning. So then Steven Crowder can’t be trusted because he has in many occasions been crossdressing and swinging around his bare dick?

    Zelensky is a former actor doing what actors do, act. If you don’t trust someone because of homosexual behavior (which even worse in this case, is an act) then you’re just a straight up homophobe. And I am very careful with my words, I dislike people calling other racists and ___phobes for nothing but you straight up don’t trust a person who acts queer. It’s like saying I don’t trust Trump because he’s white. (Well technically orange).

    But to give my view, I don’t know enough of Zelensky to be sure if I can trust him. But I do support and sympathize him for leading a country being attacked by a terrorist dictatorship with advantage in size and manpower. I think it was brave of him to not flee Ukraine even if he had the chance while Vladimir ”the underwear poisoner” Putin is hiding in his bunker sending his citizens to die.

     

    Again, you just parrot Russian news and shit on Ukraine and Zelensky but let me ask you this again: how do you think this war should end? We both agree at least that war is bad and this war should end ASAP. What do you think would be the most fair result for peace negotiations?

    I can admit that Ukraine is corrupted and has major flaws (partly because of its Russian ties and roots). But the first thing that needs to happen is Russia getting the fuck out of Ukraine and paying for the rebuild of Ukrainian cities.

    #295339

    The headaches and migraines experienced could be due to 5g, childhood vaccines, or being dependent on a lying, gas-lighting media to do your thinking for you.
    I don’t trust people with a pattern of erratic behavior over the course of time that have shown bad taste and irresponsibility. I do not see actors and comedians who close churches, censor independent media and ban political parties as leaders, but as tyrant dictators who not only get White Christian people slaughtered, but is now telling other Western countries that they are going to fight and die, too. All the while Z and his cabinet buy mansions and real estate property for their relatives in upscale locations around the world.

    When Trump was in office, there was peace. Looks like the Jan. 6th story is falling apart, too. More lies from the media. Could cause headaches for a lot of people. I don’t mind being called homophobic. I’m not flamboyantly dancing nude and playing pecker piano with a group of similar men while getting people killed and slaughtered. It does not go unnoticed that flamer Pete Buttigieg has been a total and complete disaster as Secretary of Transportation. When all is said and done, Buttigieg may end up being as bad as Zelensky in costing a country so many lives. Who’s Homophobic, the guy pointing out that flamers are being used and exploited to destroy countries or the people behind employing these incompetent perverts?

     

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    #295340

    moneygone

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    #295627

    who close churches, censor independent media and ban political parties as leaders, but as tyrant dictators who not only get White Christian people slaughtered,

    if you want to deny reality then I guess you can. You still haven’t explained the closing churches and getting white christians slaughtered. I’ve already explained many times that no churches have been banned except a handful of Russia linked orthodox churches. And I say there’s a good reason for closing them.

    I guess this conversation is useless as it’s basically you throwing around things you heard from Russian state news and I respond with news from countries with the freest press. Each to their own. But I am curious of how you would resolve the war.

     

    Looks like the Jan. 6th story is falling apart, too. More lies from the media.

    oh you mean when Tucker Carlson and other baboons showed footage of the people walking around as it would contradict the breaking in, violence and threats?

    ”Your honour, you might claim I am a murderer because I killed this person. I say, I am innocent because think of all the days I lived without murdering anyone”

    Why doesn’t the same apply for BLM? Does video footage of BLM protestors not looting prove that the whole protest was 100% lawful?

    #295629

    With independent media banned by sissy boi Zelensky, no one knows the reality. With media occupied by globalist forces, the official story is ALWAYS wrong. Underground news paints a very bleak picture of the GENOCIDE and ETHNIC cleansing of nationalist Ukrainians. It is a kill zone from what I have heard. It’s as bad as any genocide in history and everyone on all sides has ties to it, from what I’ve read.

    What is with this foolish line about “solving the war?” An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We had peace when we had Trump. This war has been going on long before the “Russian Invasion.” You had peace and you didn’t want it.

    There was no murder on Jan 6th though. That shaman was walking around with a spear and harmed no one. There was no break in, they were allowed in. All on cam. It would be relatively easy to identify anyone who used tools to smash windows or doors, yet, we do not know the faces in names of those people, which means, agents.

    It is VERY clear that this is a race war. It is VERY clear that NATO wants to KILL and MURDER white CHRISTIAN people.  Witch Samantha Power is in Hungary right now to have NATO destroy Hungary.

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    #295713

    With independent media banned by sissy boi Zelensky, no one knows the reality.

    there are lots of functioning independent media, only media with ties to Russia have been rightfully banned.

    What is with this foolish line about “solving the war?” An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We had peace when we had Trump. This war has been going on long before the “Russian Invasion.” You had peace and you didn’t want it.

    Trump was good at bending the knee and ass licking Russia. And what do you mean ”didn’t want the peace?” Are you sctually justifying the war and invasion? And my question was how do you think the war should end? Or do you think the war should continue until there isn’t a single Ukrainian or Russian person standing?

    There was no murder on Jan 6th though. That shaman was walking around with a spear and harmed no one. There was no break in, they were allowed in. All on cam. It would be relatively easy to identify anyone who used tools to smash windows or doors, yet, we do not know the faces in names of those people, which means, agents.

    The murder was an example but laws were broken. There is footage of assaults on police and violent break ins, and footage of MAGA weirdos walking peacefully won’t change that. The police only resisted until the politicians were evacuated, after that it was no reason to forcefully protect an empty building while massively outnumbered against people who could potentially be armed. And if the police were cooperative and had no problem with the hookigans walking in, how come one of these clowns then got popped by the cop and dropped dead?

    white CHRISTIAN

    for someone who has the political views of resisting identity politics, you certainly do a lot of identity politics yourself.

    Anyway, for like the fifth time. Not all churches are banned. Not all orthodox churches are banned. Only orthodox churches tied to Russia and Kreml are banned.

    I think in a war where people get slaghtered there’s more important things than boohoo my church.

    But let me ask you this. If churches are so important to you, how come you blame Ukraine for shutting down a handful of Russian churches but no issue with over 500 Ukrainian churches being bombed by Russia?

    It seems the things that bother you the most during a war are churches not functioning and America sending money to aid Ukraine, and you keep blaming Ukraine and the west for all this without saying a single word about Russia. Don’t you agree that both of your problems would disappear if Russia went back to their own shithole?

    #295714

    we do not know the faces in names of those people, which means, agents.

    ”everything is a conspiracy when you don’t know how anything works”

    Maybe it’s Trumpets knowing they are breaking laws so they are hiding faces?

    Anyway, would you agree with me that every single person on that day who assaulted police, broke in to the building and broke laws in general should get punished? Whether they are Trumpets, Antifa undercover, lizard vampire cannibal pedos or whatever. That would seem fair right?

     

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