When did Star Wars Die for me (and you).

Disney Star Wars feels like a roller coaster of highs and lows. There are some good stuff like Mandalorian, Clone Wars season eight, and Rogue One, but there are also bad things like the sequel trilogy. Also, while I don’t think Solo was bad, it wasn’t good either. Tbh, I kinda forget a lot of it actually. Let’s hope the future shows are good though, so we can move on.

I was always a casual for Star Wars but I respected the franchise and the fanbase and usually considered them the best fans of anything (until Doom since I consider them on the same level now). When The Force Awakens was announced, I went and saw everything in the Disney canon at the time and I finally became a Star Wars fan thanks to the Clone Wars. Unfortunately, my time of being a fan was cut short after a couple of months when I finally saw TFW. I got so irritated and disappointed after seeing it was a crappy woke version of Episode IV that I just gave up on Star Wars right there.

So yeah, I may be the shortest-lived fan of Star Wars ever. I know there’s the EU but I can’t keep my interest in it for long because I already invested too much time on things that end up disappointing me. Comics, movies, Western videogames, real-life situations, dreams, etc. All I can do is move on and let the sinking ships sink.

Yes, I think it was Lucasfilm’s response to fans rejecting Episode 8 that killed the Star Wars franchise.

Remember when the Holiday Special came out and it was rubbish? No-one got called racist or sexist for not liking that.

Remember when the prequels came out and lots of people didn’t like them? No-one got called racist or sexist for not liking them. Although the actor Simon Pegg has said that he does not respect anyone who does like them.

But now the Kathleen Kennedy Klan runs Lucasfilm and adoration of whatever they vomit up is not optional it seems.

I shall say that I am still a huge Star Wars fan. It’s just that the sequel trilogy isn’t Star Wars to me any more than a film such as Star Crash or any other cash in as studios scrambled to to try and duplicate the success of the original films was.

Excerpt from the script of my Is There Still Hope for Real Star Wars video:

If you had asked me that question in as far back in  2012, I would have said a flat no. Full disclosure: I am an Expanded Universe guy. I’m one of those diehard fans who when Timothy Zahn gave us the Thrawn Trilogy I jumped in head first saying, “Thank you, sir, may I have some more?” and I got more for over twenty years. But in 2012, when newly anointed Lucasflim President Kathleen Kennedy threw out all of my beloved EU, my heart was broken. Broken in the same scattered pieces millions of people are now experiencing.

In 2012 I fell into a deep fan depression over Star Wars. I was never lead down the yellow brick fools gold road to The Force Awakens. After it came out, I was in a rage for years which eventually turned into apathy. My remaining Star Wars trinkets were discarded without care, and my shelves of books ignored, eventually boxed up and forgotten for a time. Does this sound familiar yet to all you folks black pilling Star Wars here in 2021?

Even though I detail this, Real Star Wars is not dead for me. It’s alive, and my talking about it here and making videos, I’m keeping it alive and protected until the hopeful day it is freed from its Mousey Prison.

• This reply was modified 3 years ago by Roas.

I’ve observed Star Wars from a distance since I’m not really a huge “sci-fi with aliens” fan (which is weird because I love to read information about space).

Then lockdown 2020 happened and I had to shield for a while. So whilst looking online for some blue-ray’s to keep me entertained, I finally decided to set my sights on Star Wars. I got the prequel and original films has a blue-ray box set, ignoring the Disney sequel films as I had seen clips online and even I scowled and knew that they weren’t Star Wars (you wouldn’t believe how long I looked to find a box set that DIDN’T involve them!). I really enjoyed them- maybe the original films more than the prequels although I admit to finding Anikin’s story arc more interesting than Luke’s- and have been thinking about getting Rogue One and the Mandalorian on blue-ray.

Unfortunately, I always end up coming in late to liking a franchise as by the time I end up liking it, something like this has happened to it. I’m now starting to think that maybe I shouldn’t have bothered and should’ve liked it when the prequels were out when I was growing up (my class watched ‘Attack of the Clones’ at one point at school and I admit I was enjoying most of it before we had to stop it and go to our next lesson).

Did you watch the Prequels first or the OT, because, honestly, that was not the way to do it, heh. Watching the PT before the OT basically ruins Empire Strikes Back.

It doesn’t matter if you have come late. Real Star Wars still exists. The original 6 movies, dozens of videogames made before 2012, and the entirety of the EU are there for consumption. You can Choose to embrace Real Star Wars and ignore Disney Star Wars as the garbage it is, because Lucas never approved it, while he had creative and approval control over everything made between 1977 and 2012.

It’s interesting that you say watching the prequels first ruins The Empire Strikes Back because I once lent the DVDs of episodes 1-6 to a friend who had never seen any of them and he watched them in that order. He didn’t have any complaints about episode 5 being ruined but said he got a real shock in 3 when he suddenly figured out who Palpatine was when he was talking to Anakin about Darth Plagueis and answered Anakin’s question about whether he could learn to have power over life and death with the phrase, “Not from a jedi.”

I personally cannot ever really know, since I of course watched everything in real world release order, but I cannot fathom watching the PT first, knowing that Anakin is Vader and then watching Empire and getting to “I…am your Father,” and not getting my mind blown. For me, that is one of the biggest, out of left field reveals in cinema history, and if someone watches the PT first, it’s absolutely ruined.

Well, perhaps ruined is too strong a word, but it loses all its power as a line and a moment with the following,

“That’s not true…that’s impossible!”

“You know it to be true.”

“Noooooo! Nooooo!”

Going in knowing Anakin is Vader steals the power of the scene…

I watched the prequels first and then the originals as I wasn’t sure what order to watch them in 😂. Thought I might start in chronological order thinking that it would make sense to watch Episode 1, 2 and 3 in the right order even though I knew I could learn just as much with the original films first.

For any other franchise, that kind of logic is correct. Star Wars is literally the only franchise in entertainment where you do not watch the movies in chronological order if you are a first time watcher. When you’ve been watching them all for over 30 years, then yeah, it doesn’t matter. I know I tend to go 1-6 these days when I’m watching them. One time I even went 1, 2, Clone Wars, 3, 4, 5, 6.