Where the DCEU went wrong…and right

Great topic!

I have so much to say, Obviously most people know I can’t stand Man of Steel or Batman v Superman – I understand there are people out there that do, but I hate those movies. I think the casting is as good as anyone could have possibly imagined, But ultimately the riding around these characters is terrible.

But there are things I do like about the DCEU, specifically Wonder Woman. It’s one of my top 10 or 15 comic book films of all-time – Gal Gadot OWNED the role!

I think Suicide Squad is a bad movie, but I find things about it that I do enjoy. I like a lot of the characters but unfortunately it just didn’t come together like it should.

I thoroughly enjoyed Aquaman and I think Jason Momoa is a fantastic choice for the role.

Those are the things that stand out to me, good and bad, but I’m looking forward to hearing what everyone else has to say

I’ve never been a big DC fan, and the DCEU is not something that I have enjoyed much.

I saw Man of Steel at a pre-screening, and I’ll be honest, its my favorite of the bunch. Not for the story. Not for the characters. Not for the score. Not for the portrayal of Superman (though I think Cavill is great in that role). I liked it for the action. I liked seeing a Superman that had to go all-out to deal with a threat that had no regard for the lives around him. I’ve always liked the style that Snyder uses when directing action scenes, and watching the fights against the Kryptonians showed me moments that I can only describe as “anime moments”. It looked like a live-action DBZ fight. Two people with god-level power fighting in the middle of a city that was destroyed as a result. I’m not saying it was a good movie. But I enjoyed it. At this point, almost all of the enjoyment I derive from the DCEU comes from these “anime moments”.

BVS had a garbage story, and had no “anime moments” to redeem it. Its a bad film overall, which is par for the course with the DCEU films.

Wonder Woman and Aquaman were fine, but I still think they are overpraised by people who just expected them to be bad. I enjoyed the films overall (and Gal Gadot was great). But, the stories were just alright. Not good, not bad. Pretty average place holder films that helped to flesh out the world a little better. The only real “anime moment” that stuck in my mind was a chase-punch during Aquaman’s underwater arena fight like you’d see in DBZ.

I enjoyed Shazam. It was a good deviation from their standard “dark” formula. A fun change of pace. The story, again, not great, but passable.

Justice League was obviously terrible, but I look forward to seeing the Snyder cut. I’m hoping his directorial vision at least helps to improve it a little. The one visual piece I enjoyed was when the Superman turns to look at the Flash as he runs past him. #AnimeMoment.

Birds of Prey, Suicide Squad, and any others I’m missing don’t really even deserve to be discussed do they?

Anyway, that’s my overly simplified breakdown of my thoughts. Most of it just comes down to “I thought some of the fights were cool I guess”.

• This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by FischersOfMen.

MoS was a great way to kick off the DCEU (as a MoS defender myself, despite its overall flaws) but it pretty much hit the crapper pretty much immediately right after, even though the DCEU does have its good moments post-MoS (WW and Shazam) I think it can be redeemed and if there is a time to redeem it, that time has to be now.

Where the DCEU went wrong….getting rid of Snyder during JL’s production and hiring the hack Whedon. Where the DCEU went right….giving Zack the chance to finish his movie properly now.

Casting is A+ for the main Superheros. Unfortunately some of the villains didn’t work for me in these DC movies lately. Wonder Woman was good but the ending villain was poorly done. Aquman looked incredible in 3D and Jason Mamoa was great. But the movie was kind of dumb and felt more like a Marvel film. Batman vs Superman was trash because of the slow pacing and bad script. Suicide Squad had a bad script with good casting. The Villain didn’t work for me here. The Joker movie was great. I didnt like Justice League because I don’t like having that many Superheroes in one movie. I hated Shazam because it was just dumb full of jokes and bad acting. A lot of Marvel fans like it because they love dumb superhero movies.. Birds of Woke is trash. I think the origin stories are the best when done right and don’t go woke. I dont like Marvel Avengers either. Going forward I think DC needs to make sure they do a better job with getting good villains and good scripts. Dont go woke with Wonder Woman… Dont be dumb like Marvel..

Have you seen Shazam yet?  That movie and Wonder Woman are easily my two favorites.