Chauvin Guilty on All Counts

Haven’t really been paying attention to what’s going on in the real world lately 😅 so…

What’s going on? Who’s Chauvin? What was he accused of??

What video???

Talk about handcuffing the police from being able to do their jobs – taking dangerous criminals off the streets.

So if anyone dies while in contact with the police, it is a murder charge?

There was a video from a different angle that showed the officer’s knee was on the shoulder blade (and NOT the neck).

A video from another officer’s bodycam shows that Chauvin’s knee is not pressing on Floyd’s neck. After watching the video, Chief of Minneapolis Police Department Medaria Arradondo agreed that a different angle indicated that the knee was not strangling Floyd’s airway.

That a person died is sad.

Was the office guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder and manslaughter?

Second degree murder is generally defined as intentional murder that lacks premeditation, is intended to only cause bodily harm, and demonstrates an extreme indifference to human life.

Did the officer intend to murder this person?  No.

Was the officer intend to only cause bodily harm?  No.  (The deceases was kicking, and having him on the ground was the safest for the individual, the officers, and those around them).

Demonstrate extreme indifference to human life?  Again No.  That would have been to just let he go and do more harm to the community or himself.

Third-degree murder: The unintentional killing of another through an eminently dangerous act committed with a depraved mind and without regard for human life.

Eminently dangerous act?

With a “depraved mind”?

Is that because the POLICE officer was also a toxic masculine white male?

As the media is villifying all police, all males, all whites?

manslaughter: the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.

also:

malice aforethought: the intention to kill or harm

So manslaughter is defined as the crime of killing a human being without the intention of killing.

Of all the charges, this last one is the only one I see as being valid charge.

• This reply was modified 3 years ago by Legatus_Legionis. Reason: spelling errors

@DigiCat Derek Chauvin was the police officer who arrested George Floyd last year and… severely mishandled his arrest, which resulted in summer-long riots in the USA.

Initially even right-wingers were horrified at the footage, but an autopsy revealed Floyd’s system had lethal quantities of fentanyl, and there was leaked footage from the Daily Mail (British publication) which showed important context in the events that led to Floyd’s death:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-reaction-leaked-george-floyd-footage

This doesn’t excuse Chauvin’s actions or let him off the hook. But what’s important is how the Left is trying to frame this: That Floyd was murdered by a racist cop just for committing a minor infraction while being black, and this somehow justified letting anarchists cut loose; setting fire to public and private property, committing murder, rape and kidnapping, assaulting random strangers in public, destroying monuments of national heritage and even stetting up their own autonomous zone in the middle of Seattle.

While in actuality, the larger story points toward Chauvin being incompetent at best, and guilty of manslaughter at worst. Chauvin’s intent was clearly to incapacitate Floyd because he was resisting arrest and his hysterical behavior (likely influenced by drugs) made him seem dangerous to himself and others. It was just extreme gross negligence on his part not to realize Floyd was in no condition to be rendered unconscious.

Of course, by that time, the Left had already invested their emotional narrative that Floyd is the next MLK and they will fight to defend that stance with blood and nails. In a sane society, we would be discussing better police training for certain departments so that something like Floyd’s death doesn’t happen again. But we have too many race-baiters who would rather set emotionally-driven narratives because they are easier for people to believe in, from which you can profit off and secure elections by making empty promises that are actually impossible to resolve.

I kinda figured that thanks to the inflamed political climate, Chauvin wasn’t going to get a fair trial and nothing less than convicting him of outright murder would satisfy the Left. But no-one is exactly in a rush to passionately defend him, either. I mean, he didn’t exactly set himself as a model example of law enforcement (though I won’t deny it sets a bad precedent; when you have a congresswoman giving veiled threats if a trial doesn’t go the way she wants, you’re already looking at an erosion of the justice system).

@Legatus_Legionis

Manslaughter fit possibly, however, I will also say had the jury not been tainted (and I will say forever he could not get a fair trial based off so many things) they may have found on that charge, though they could based off the other video and tox report found him not guilty.

The Charge MOST fitting of all was Involuntary Manslaughter, But there has to be negligence or recklessness. That might have been provable, as they had him down so long.

Bottom line right now is 3 guilty verdicts that do not fit the crime, after hearing and seeing the trial evidence. Yes the Officer should have been fired, yes charged FOR MINIMUM of Involuntary and as high as Manslaughter, but when so much influence had came to bare as much as I hate to say it, all charges dismissed as there is no possibility of a fair trial IMO.

This is truly a case where NO JUSTICE happens for Mr Floyd or the Officers. True justice would have been a fair trial and anyone who says this was is living life with blinders on. That saddens me.  The Jury return time says this was over and done with before the first Oath was taken.

Newsmax host: Jury decided to ‘sacrifice’ Chauvin to the mob

Rob Schmitt, host of “Wake Up America” on the conservative network Newsmax, said on Tuesday that former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin was a “sacrifice to the mob” after he was found guilty on three counts in the murder of George Floyd.

agree

“They say justice is blind. I don’t think it was blind in this case at all,” Schmitt said. “I think you have political pressure. I think you have pressure from all these activist groups going into all this. And I think at the end of the day people say, ‘You know what? If we acquit this guy, this city is going to burn to the ground.'”

“So you had a jury that said, ‘You know what? We’re gonna have to sacrifice this guy to the mob.’ And that’s exactly what I think happened today,” Schmitt added.

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The jury’s verdict delivers accountability for Derek Chauvin, but not justice for George Floyd. Real justice for him and too many others can only happen when we build a nation that fundamentally respects the human dignity of every person,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) tweeted.

And what of all those homicides that have no convictions?  All those black-on-black murders?

Don’t those lives matter?

All those violent criminals are not being held accountable?

I knew the trial wouldn’t be fair because of threats and dox to the judges. It was mostly, if not guilty, riot and theft. Guilty, nothing.

They do realize that the riots and theft are gonna go on anyway, right?