China could shoot down Pelosi’s plane’ if she flies to Taiwan

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    In a banned tweet, a top state-media commentator reportedly said China could ‘forcibly dispel Pelosi’s plane’ and shoot it down if it flies to Taiwan

    A leading propagandist for the Chinese government warned that China’s military could attack the plane carrying House Speaker Nancy Pelosi if it’s escorted by US fighter planes on a much-speculated stopover in Taiwan in her upcoming visit to Asia.

    And start WWIII.

    In a now-banned tweet, Hu Xijin, a commentator with the Chinese-state-owned Global Times, wrote, “If US fighter jets escort Pelosi’s plane into Taiwan, it is [an] invasion. The [People’s Liberation Army] has the right to forcibly dispel Pelosi’s plane and the US fighter jets, including firing warning shots and making tactical movement of obstruction.”

    “If ineffective, then shoot them down,” Hu added…

    Talk about a deliberate escillation of tensions… by the CCP.

    Top military experts on China have warned that a visit to Taiwan by Pelosi could heighten the risk of an “accident” that could spark a military crisis in the region.

    Who is the TRUE threat to world peace and peace in the region?

    The dictators of the CCP.

    Should she visit the island, approximately 100 miles from China’s southeast coast, Pelosi would become the highest-ranking US lawmaker in over two decades to visit Taiwan.

    So it is not something new, just not recent.

    This just in time for the US midterms, and IF Pelosi makes a martyr of herself…

     

     

    #277343
    Vknid
    Moderator

      They are not going to harm one of their own puppets.  It’s just propaganda.

      #277385

      China and the Dems are not allies. The Chinese do some lobbying in the in the US and as always the Dems are lining their pockets where there is corruption, but they are not beholden to the CCP. China has its entirely own agenda. For a while the US believed it could control the dragon, which is why the appeased the chinese when it came to the Uighurs, and to pushing movie studios to remove taiwanese flags etc.
      But now that the Chinese openly support America’s number 1 enemy, Russia, the charade has been dropped, and both the US and China are more openly hostile. You can see that media coverage of China has changed. Soros has been pushing for influence in China for decades to no avail.

      The CCP aren’t the good guys in this scenario. Them taking over Taiwan would be a disaster for the people there.

      #277413
      Vknid
      Moderator

        I did not say all the Democrats were Chinese agents but clearly some of them are.  As well as are a number of Republicans.

        The funny part about China vs. USA is that they are both doing the same thing.  Trying to put their tendrils into other countries via influence.  China more so through forced influence but at the end of the day it some of the same stuff.  Although I think the goals are different.  China wants to rule the world, USA only wants to make money off it.  Now clearly when I reference these countries I don’t mean the people I mean their governments.

        #277604

        They both want to rule the world. The US does rule most of the developed world. They have puppet regimes everywhere – except Russia, India, Brazil and Hungary currently.

        #277630
        Vknid
        Moderator

          I disagree. China wants to rule.  The US just wants to make cash.  I would wager at this point China has more influence than the US does in the far flung places.  And in such a way as they can apply force.  The “Belt and Road Initiative” for example.

          #277634

          China In Power — Winning without having fired a shot!!!

          China In Power………..>>>>>>>  and American Government keeps playing politics.

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          * 1. They have a very low tolerance for crime. The death sentence is
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          that comes to more than 23 trillion dollars. *

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          United States.*

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          ventures with Chinese companies.*

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          And in Canada and the US we are concerned about political correctness and want to spend time trying to change the names of streets and pull down statues of long dead politicians.

          And by shipping all (vast majority) of manufacturing jobs to China where they can make it on the cheap (and manipulate their currency) the west is giving them the money to do what they are doing… by purchasing with our lost jobs/GDP the world.

          While the west is destroying their economies by “going green”, China is building hundreds of coal burning powerplants to feed the manufacturing plants to give you the products.

           

          While China has one of the largest military forces on the planet, it is not yet tested in actual combat.  Crushing citizen protests (tiananmen square) is not the same as actual combat – when they fire back with equal force.

          Russia’s military has had some combat experience, but as the current war is showing, not exactly world class.

          The US, while has combat experience, is falling to wokism and the disaster of recent troop pullout and lack of meeting enrollment requirements, are showing serious problems.

          Will the CCP claim self defense on shooting down Pelosi’s plane and escorts?  DEFINITELY.

          Is Pelosi stupid enough to try to go to Taiwan even with the warnings?  Most likely.

           

          I see the dems WANT endless wars. (to feed the vast military industrial complete) they are so tied to.

           

          But like we have see before WWII, you cannot allow a bully (dictator) get away with doing bad things, intimidating its neighbours, and hope things will get better if you give in.  That only makes the bullies wanting MORE.

          #277659
          Mustangride1
          Moderator

            China shooting down her plane would be a direct act of war and require a retaliation which would escalate very quickly…. So no it wont happen

             

            #277686
            Vknid
            Moderator

              Yeah and I think it was a Chinese social media account that said it that was only possibly connected to the CCP.  So no telling.  Probably just someone flapping their gums.

              #277710

              Well, she landed in Taiwan in the middle of the night.

               

              #277763
              BeardedMountain
              Moderator

                They can still try on her return flight. It will be WW3 if it happens. We cant allow the speaker of the house to be shot down with out going to war. Since its congress that declares war.

                #277768

                They both want to rule the world. The US does rule most of the developed world. They have puppet regimes everywhere – except Russia, India, Brazil and Hungary currently.

                what sources backs this up? Sounds like nonsense

                #278068

                China freezing out U.S. as relations in ‘downward spiral’ after Pelosi’s Taiwan visit

                China announced Friday it was ending all contact with the United States on major issues — including crucial climate co-operation that led to the international 2015 Paris accord — as tensions and public rebukes ratcheted higher over U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan.

                Well, the us has that expert on foreign policy in biden to make things right, afterall, the us is back is it not?

                Ominously, experts in China-U.S. relations warned that China’s diplomatic and military moves appeared to go beyond retaliatory measures for the visit and could open a new, more openly hostile era, and a more uncertain time for Taiwan’s democratic government.

                And a pretense to invade and destroy the descendance of those who fled when the commies conquered mainland china.

                “And I think that China is likely to change the status quo in the Taiwan Strait in ways that are going to be harmful to Taiwan and are going to be disadvantageous to the United States,”

                Destabilizing the zone, and the peace in the entire region.

                China stopped short of interrupting economic and trade talks, where it is looking to Biden to lift tariffs imposed by former president Donald Trump on imports from China.

                Well, maybe it is time for the us (and the west) to not just increase those tariff and add way more, it might be time to also BAN the importing of alot of CCP manufactured products (and bring those jobs/tax revenue) back to the us.  Banning corporations from work in and making products in china.

                China’s Foreign Ministry said dialogue between U.S. and Chinese regional commanders and defence department heads would be cancelled, along with talks on military maritime safety. Co-operation on returning illegal immigrants, criminal investigations, transnational crime, illegal drugs and climate change will be suspended, the ministry said.

                Sadly, just like the balkanization taking place in the us (dems vs reps), I see the world balkanizing once more between the west and the east.  But one that is closer to WWIII than at any time during the Cold War.

                I expect the “freedom of navigation” the us normally does, will no longer be just words of threats by the CCP when they happen.

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