The ‘Call of Duty’/Activision Drama

People have to understand that the folks on the radical left will say or do anything they have to so as to “win”.  They don’t care how big the lie is or how wrong their action is, it all gets excused because it’s a means to an end.

For everyone else, they need to NOT to participate in the same things or end up being what it is they fight against.

This situation is simple.  NickMercs said something very basic, apolitical and rational.  It is also something 99.99999% of the people out there will agree on.  Only the radicals will react to it the way COD did, lie about or try to defend COD.

@SuperSoynic_Speed
“It 100% was an anti LGBT tweet when you stop ignoring the context. The right seems to be adapting well the fake outrage defensive strawman tactics the left used in 2016. The issue is not the general statement that children should not be abused, the issue was that he responded to a video showing alt-right freaks physically attacking pride demonstrators, implying that they deserve gettin assaulted because they ”groom children” because they celebrate pride.”

That is an amazing amount of mental gymnastics you are displaying and the fact that you couple that with hateful words signals to me you are an ideologue.

If we are to consider ,under any circumstances or on any level, the phrase “Leave little children alone” as anti-lgbt then the “LGBT movement” has a massive problem on it’s hands.  And let’s not conflate the movement with the everyday gay folk because those are not the same.  I have seen many many gay people talking about how they think sexualizing the children to be wrong so this idea that LGBT is a monolith and that so are people who oppose sexualizing children is incorrect and is pushed by people on “teams” trying to force an agenda.

Have you seen that video he commented on?  It’s pretty much just a bunch of dingdongs fighting at a demonstration that was meant to show disagreement with the school boards decision.  Yet you couch it in such a way that some pro-pride people were having a party when “alt-right freaks” showed up and just began to beat on them because “alt-right”.  If you look at the video or others like it, it’s impossible to tell who is beating who.  It’s just handfuls of people trying to hit each other.

And I am not sure how you extract people deserve to be assaulted from “leave little children alone”.  And this idea that “pride = groom” I have never seen or heard displayed by anyone on “the right”.  But I hear it constantly from “the left”.

You have entirely fallen for this false paradigm that everyone is on a “team” and if you are on a team you must pro everything that team thinks and have to be against everything on the other team.  This is why the country is so divided and why western goverments are doing as they please because we are all to busy hating on each other just like they want.

No one really cares what adults do and I thought that was the goal of the original movement. How we have gotten from that to arguing over the sexualization of children I am not certain. But what I do know is that the absolute majority of people are entirely against introducing sexual concepts of any type to children and the only reason there is any “fight” over that is because the radical left frames that as “anti-gay”.  And that is entirely intentional because they need us all to be fighting each other.

“again, the issue is that the tweet was made as a response to a video of the demonstration where the authorities identified Proud Boys member chanting leave the kids alone and wearing shirts with the same slogan to counter the LGBT demonstration”

So we have graduated from “alt-right freaks” to now proud boys.  I think you are on propaganda crack pipe and cannot see beyond it.

“You need to be extremely dense or just simply argue in very bad faith to believe his tweet had nothing to do with the video he responded to about LGBT people. He literally repeated the Proud Boys chant in a response to the video.”

So now it’s a proud boys chant. If you are going to believe anything you see or read without any discernment I am not sure you are capable of rational discussion.  Because at the end of the day you are just looking for bias confirmation and are not at all interested in learning or understanding someone else’s view.

I have read a number of articles on this topic and almost all were from leftist biased papers. What you are claiming does not even match those.  I read “proud boys” once and it was because a proud boys sticker was found at the school post incident.  The event was not a LGBT demonstration.  It was people from both “sides” coming out either in support of or for against the school boards decision.

“It’s all just extremely bad faith arguing and the issue is not the statement that children should be left alone, the issue is that it’s explicitly used as a way to attack the LGBT community.”

That is absolute nonsense and I think you know it is.  So if parents are concerned about introducing sexual topics to children far to young and that they want to be the ones doing that.  Exactly how should they communicate that so it’s not an offense or an attack?  I mean “leave little kids alone” is pretty plain.  Should we speak in Klingon?

You seem to think yourself a keen observer of people and how they interact with politics.  But somehow you are appear to absolutely be blind to the obvious going on in front of you.  Taking legitimate concerns or assertions against your agenda and calling them invalid because they are hateful is politics 101.

But let’s forget that.  If during a pride march march Satan himself cracked the ground and crawled through it and yelled “leave little kids alone”.  It’s still the absolute truth. Whether someone says it out of anger, concern or hatred that truth remains the case.

“well it doesn’t help that people call drag queens groomers, people teaching or talking about pride or about LGBT are called groomers, average Joe’s on the streets go to shops with Pride on display yelling at the employees about how they are grooming children and so on.”

Wow you are so good at this. I literally cannot tell if you slurp up propaganda with a hose or if you are out there writing it. No one cares about drag queens.  They have existed for decades, no one cared.  It was when they started having shows for and with young children they got called groomers.  And you know why?  Because if you are an adult doing or showing sexual stuff to a child YOU ARE A GROOMER. PERIOD.

“He didn’t just randomly tweet leave the children alone, he responded it to a video of an event where Proud Boys counter protested LGBT movements with yelling the same exact slogan. ”

This stuff you are saying just is not true.  That is not at all what the protest was.  It was not even an event.  Both sides of the situation (which again was at a school due to a school board meeting going on) said come out and let’s support our cause. Then overheated dingdongs got into fights after yelling at each other for a period of time.

“Stop arguing in bad faith and try to claim the tweet was not directed at the LGBT community”

I am cool with you calling me names and insulting me.  I am fine with you being dismissive and condescending.  But that actually is offensive.  Because I have done nothing here but talk about things as I see them and I have researched them openly.

You are either hopelessly awash in propaganda or you are the one arguing in bad faith because you are saying nonsensical things, trying to attach things together so as to invalidate claims and just attributing any disagreement to hatred or subterfuge.

“Accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt” –Saul Alinsky

A lot going on in the video but the most striking thing is the admission that many people are privately supporting Nickmercs but publicly won’t. This means the fear of the mob is working and people are self censoring to conform to the threat of the mob.

Personally speaking, if you fear retribution because you have a family or what not I understand that fear.  However, I find it cowardly to admit to a person who has a pair who did stand up that you actually are with them but you cannot do so publicly.  That seems to just be a self serving move to me because you feel guilty.

@SuperSoynic_Speed

I appreciate your articulate and tempered response.  This is the kind of conversation I like where we kind of cut to it and talk about the matter at hand.  I think you have done a great job here of taking a large conversation and boiling it down to where the rubber meets the road.

However, I disagree with all of your assertions.  I won’t pretend to know your motivations or your thoughts or what you know.  But I can tell you I think you wrong and what you are repeating is what the hate mongers and those whom would have us all in social tribes all at war with each other want you to think and say.

Nickmercs was canned because of the the current power paradigm.  The radical leftists are in power and going against their agenda gets you a visit from the mob which will attempt to cancel you through whatever means necessary.  Let’s not pretend “LGBT” is some oppressed minority that everyone openly hates, has no power and is constantly fighting for rights in the west, particularly the USA.  I am certain at the point that western countries fly your agenda flag openly and equally with their nation flag that you are no longer oppressed.  The very fact that a company must fear the woke mob and act accordingly shows who has the power currently. The idea that parents just don’t offer up their children because some people in that radical left camp want to do introduce very young children to sexual  things does not at all equal oppression or hatred and the assertion it does is absolute societal degrading lunacy.

“Saying children should be left alone, with context as a response to LGBT people indicates that LGBT people hurt children. Problem.”

No, no it’s not.  And the only people making that connection are the ones on the radical left in defense of what some of them are trying to do. You say you are against the sexualization of children yet we have seen with video and photo evidence that this is going on in schools and around schools.  I don’t even in my own mind tie that to LGBT.  I don’t know if the people attempting these things are gay or trans or whatever.  I don’t make that assumption but it seems you do.  I don’t care if someone shaking their private parts in front of a young kid is gay or not, it simply does not matter.  What matters is the fact someone is doing that.

This misdirection and trying to move where the light is shining is just political strategy.  This is flawed logic meant to conflate and confuse.  I guess if I said Jefferey Dahmer was an evil man whom did terrible things, you would just assume that was an invalid assertion because it involves LGBT and I must be saying that out of hatred?  Yes, that is very silly and what you are trying to explain is equally as silly.

I agree 100% with Nickmercs statement and whomever else says it is just as correct.  Leave little kids alone.  It’s very simple.