The first AI crime?

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  • #306627
    Vknid
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      Here is a long and boring security article about a very complex hack that was done.  There is a blurb in it I find very scary if you think of the possibilities of such a thing.

      “After signing in, the attacker deepfaked an employee’s voice and called the targeted IT team member, tricking them into providing an additional MFA code”

       

       

      https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/retool-blames-breach-on-google-authenticator-mfa-cloud-sync-feature/

      #306647

      Actually I think the first AI crime was those law students trying to write up a case and used AI to do it but the AI ended up forging false information for the case and they created illegal documents that falsified their entire case with forged signatures.

      #306659

      I am conflicted.
      I use Midjourney Ai, strictly for personal purposes. I’m not taking jobs away from anybody because the Ai art that I design are for my videos, short stories & for audio Visual books that I narrate. I’ve never employed anybody so nobody was ever dependent on me for their work to get paid. The designs I prompt are very detailed to suit what exactly I want it to produce. I also try to sell my designs to those that are interested. I am an entrepreneur, making videos is what I want to make my job.
      So anybody else that does the same, I feel it is fine to do so.
      This is where I tie in to this topic, Ai Crime. It might not exactly be the same thing but I still consider it Ai Crime.
      There are people that apply for jobs, say as a concept artist & they use their Ai Art as their work. That I consider Fraud & theft. Fraud if it is not disclosed as Ai generated & theft because you are taking a job from a Concept Artist. It sucks but there are circumstances where I can accept it: If the ideas are unique enough for ideas that nobody else but the designer could think up (Example a Shark mixed with a Flamingo, with specific instructions to the prompt which I won’t share because that would be exposing my formula for some of my designs)
      2nd which I consider a much greater Ai Crime are the Companies, big or small, that replace their workforce  with Ai. That is evil & there is nothing I would accept from a business owner to go that route, unless it’s to turn the business into a small business run by himself & a small staff. But not acceptable from let’s say Activision Blizzard replacing their artists with Ai designers, ai script writers, ai actors…etc.

      Another thing that has greatly bothered me is that as an Actual artist that can draw & write & do graphic design, photography, videography…etc I am no longer comfortable with non artistic people using ai art as a means of income or attention. I used to be ok with it because I understand that many people want to be able to create but have no talent or knowledge of art. But most of them are not artists & they do not disclose what they use. These are the people that apply for Concept art positions sell their work for thousands of dollars & then go on etsy to sell the most basic office waiting room poster art you will ever see, like a Teddy Bear In The Snow on a Sunny Day. I know this sounds very specific & it is, because this is what actually happened. This woman was asking in the Midjourney Discord, if she is allowed selling her Ai art made with Midjourney. The answer is yes. There might be copywrite laws that can allow others to download your designs, but they cannot make money off of it because with MJ there are legal documents that make the work yours & you can prevent others from selling or profiting off your stuff. You can sell up to 1m$ worth before having to register for (Something I can’t remember) This was all said by a few admins. Then she came out & said she sold 500 characters & scenes she made through Midjourney for something like 5-10k$ They did not hire her, they just wanted to buy her work. I asked her if she has any real world talents & she said “NO! I just wanted to see how easy it was to make money with it.” she mocked artists & said she was going to continue because this is so easy. I think she got banned because that was considered abusing their TOS.
      I believe that art is Cultural & art is something  unique to the individual, I know people will say Ai art is not your art. That is why I say I designed it, the prompt is the design. Also a good writer can write amazing books, ai art is the part of the story in visual form. People consider writing an art form, the prompt is the art of writing a picture. So Ai art tools should only or mostly be available to artistic people that can prove their artistic merit. And  no, your love for drawing stick figures is not artistic, it’s sociopathic & most cereal killers draw stick figures to dehumanize their view of people lol.
      It’s a very fine line. But these are my thoughts so far on Ai Crimes.
      Here is a Dirty Slimy Cat That Is Made Out Of Garbage, enjoy :P lol Giggavega_a_dirty_slimy_cat_made_out_of_garbage._Hyper_realisti_8ff6ae93-d78d-4fb1-b1cc-524b3db1d720Giggavega_a_dirty_slimy_cat_made_out_of_garbage._Hyper_realisti_03487b6f-fb86-45a2-a677-e6a4fdfa8987

      #306670

      Perhaps I’m being pedantic but I wouldn’t consider that an A.I. crime, just a crime using A.I. tools.

      I’d consider an A.I. crime to be one where the entire thing is carried out by the A.I. — you just feed it your goal and it takes it from there.

       

      It’s scary nevertheless as that’s where things are headed and there ain’t a darn thing anyone can do to stop it.

      #306672

      @GiggaVega Well it’s the age old conundrum of technology making things more accessible and affordable to the masses while replacing/displacing skilled workers in the process.  It happened with the industrial revolution – gone are your are the days of your friendly neighborhood blacksmiths, furniture and cabinet makers.

      I remember back at university, there was a high demand for typists to prepare projects. With the mainstream availability of computers, some made the transition to word processors but basically the field contracted because students were able to prepare/personalize their own projects.

      The same thing will happen as A.I. makes its impact.

      There’s one piece of advice I received in my younger days that I’d like to share with everyone here. My cousin (a businessman) asked me what I was interested in perusing  after my studies. I was hesitant to tell him for fear that he would steal my idea. He realized that and told me you mustn’t be afraid that someone may steal your ideas. Sure that may happen – but it’s also likely that someone may come up with the same idea on their own. It doesn’t matter if more than one person is doing the same job – that’s competition. The important thing to remember is that no one will be able to do it the way that you can do it. You have to trust that your unique talents will differentiate your product/service from the others and if there’s a demand for that — there’s your market.

      There are no guarantees in life but there are always opportunities in life. Go brave, go strong – the universe always unfolds as it should.

       

      #306676
      Vknid
      Moderator

        “I’d consider an A.I. crime to be one where the entire thing is carried out by the A.I. — you just feed it your goal and it takes it from there.”

        We might get there but clearly there will be steps before that and this is one of them and it’s real as it happened and an actual crime was committed there.

        Right now I think all the buzz about AI is fear mongering as well as some conveniently timed marketing. Even the name in my opinion is not applicable , it’s not an artificial intelligence as much as it’s clever automation based on a large dataset of info.  It’s not like it has original ideas to my knowledge it’s just a mashup of already existing info and works.  I call it algorithmic plagiarism.

        I am not saying there should be no concerns about it in the short and long term but whatever danger there is will not (for a long time) be that it wakes up and starts wiping people out.  It’s a tool and like any tool it is not inherently evil or dangerous it just depends on how it is used.

        The buzz about it is more marketing than anything.  The same type of thing happens every time new technology comes out where the market tries to apply it to everything under the sun.  For example we had a similar deal with VR in the 90’s , it was going to change the world!  And then again with VR in the last several years, it’s going to change the world!.  Well, while it has it’s uses it’s not revolutionized anything beyond selling expansive gear to gamers that I am aware of .  Again, it’s a tool.

        As far as originality goes.

        “Originality is the art of concealing your sources.”
        ― Benjamin Franklin

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