What U-verse ship wins

Babylon 5 has the weakest tech out of all of them, imo. No such thing as shields in that verse, just living hulls, so they’re gonna lose no matter what.

I wager for the rest of them it’s not a matter of the weapons, but how powerful the shielding is. The other three all have impressive capital based weapons that have the power to pulverize both ships as well as planets.

While Star Wars deflector shields never give a lot of details on relative strength, we know that Trek and Stargate both have serious shields on cruiser and capital class ships. I think that gives Trek and Stargate advantages, but Star Wars and Stargate have larger ships than Trek, which means more weapons per ship.

I’ve always been of mind that an Imperial Star Destroyer would be too much for a Galaxy Class Trek ship.

An Imp SD has 60 Turbolases and 60 Ion cannons, the Ions capable of ripping through shields, but a Galaxy Class has only a couple of phasor arrays. I think it would overwhelm Trek ships despite the slightly iffy Star Wars shields.

I still say B5 ships are weakest. Vorlon and Shadow bio armor might have been impressive, but we saw them get beaten by enough laser based weapons on the lesser ships of that show. All the other ships in all the other shows are vastly stronger.

I’ve been waiting for a moment to bring this up, but I haven’t been in a conversation where I could, but since we’re steering into it a little bit…

Here’s the thing about B5. I watched B5 from the beginning to end when it started to air. Then I watched it over and over again in syndication (when that was a thing) for years and years. Cuz I was bored a few months back, I did another watch, and my gripes with it have never changed.

The first two or three, maybe four times, B5 is a good watch, even with its flaws. The reason B5 worked was because they had planned out the entire story from 1-4. They knew where they were going. The other side of this, is after watching the show so many times, the filler episodes really are painful to watch. In my last, and likely final watch ever, all I wanted were the main story episodes. The main story is still very good, but the filler episodes were painful to watch. I just didn’t care.

And even after all these years, I cannot forgive its biggest flaw, which annoys the ever loving shit out of me. Let me preference, I know the season 4 finale was supposed to serve as a series finale, and left as that it’s fine…but then they give us season 5, which is like a vestigial useless third limb because of what the season 4 finale reveals for the future of the B5 universe. The only necessary episode of season 5 was the actual series finale, which should have been the season 4 finale to close out the show.

Take all of that into account, how was I supposed to be remotely interested in the spin off series Crusade?

Don’t get me wrong, like I said, B5, if you are watching it for the first time, is good and fun. To me, though, after watch after watch, it doesn’t age well gets overall boring.

@Roas

The issue with season five is because of the change of network when TNT took over from Warners. JMS didn’t know if he’d get another season so he had to finish everything off in season four and the finale of the fifth season was actually produced then (which is why Ivanova is in it but Lockley isn’t). The original plan was for the civil war to continue into the fifth season.

Another fun fact – there will never be a Blu Ray release because the CGI can’t be upgraded without being completely redone. I was told this by Robin Aitken Downes who played Byron in season five.

• This reply was modified 3 years, 1 month ago by StephenDutton.

The issue with season five is because of the change of network when TNT took over from Warners. JMS didn’t know if he’d get another season so he had to finish everything off in season four and the finale of the fifth season was actually produced then (which is why Ivanova is in it but Lockley isn’t). The original plan was for the civil war to continue into the fifth season.

K, I had no idea that the season 5 finale was filmed in season 4. That makes a ton of sense. The series finale really is a great episode, and it neatly puts everything and everyone into a perfect place, which makes A Call to Arms and Crusade very difficult to swallow. It really all stems back to my dislike of when a series goes back in time after set story moments, which is why I generally don’t like prequels in anything.