Xbox games going more woke than PlayStation?

@SuperSoynic_Speed @thomassparker1399

In some cases, you would be right, but that’s sadly not the case because in every single one of these games, IDENTITY politics and AGENDA is being pushed over story and that’s why they’re woke.

See, the fact that they had to make a black character just to be black or a trans character to be noticeably trans is woke content in itself.

Does it ruin the whole game, that’s also the level of woke we are dealing with here. I also wouldn’t call someone a snowflake for calling out woke identity politics.

Diverse and inclusive can exist without pushing a narrative which is more often why these games include characters like this in the first place. Sadly these games are woke to some extent and sadly people don’t want to pay for that.

I remember back in the day where a black character could just exist and no one bat an eye, San Andreas prime example. The main character was black, a first for the GTA franchise, follows a classic 90s gang story, good writing, and probably one of the best games of the series.

Please tell me where the agenda was pushed? It wasn’t, it was about a man and his rise to gangster glory. It was just a good story and had humor and had fun, a term often ignored in modern gaming.

Today we see woke studios like naughty dog refrain from using terms like “fun” which is the entire point of a video game, wouldn’t you say?

Now take Forespoken. The characters were annoying, unlikeable and often use race or slavery as a plotting device rather than just an appearing black and moving on. Let’s also look at The Last of Us Part 2, normal guy who saved a girl’s life and then gender confused creep who murders a good guy. Please tell me how this wasn’t motivated by an agenda?

It was and that’s what makes it woke. ESG scores pushing investors made these games woke by promising better interest rates for companies who push woke agendas.

Diverse and inclusive doesn’t work if the games suck. Games do not have to have characters that look or think like you to be diverse and inclusive. Video games were only about exclusivity when it came to IPs, not people.

Ultimately, you can pay for woke garbage, that’s your money. You do you, but these games are still woke.

Even Diablo 4 has gone super woke, focusing on strong female characters rather than the namesake of the game Diablo. Why would you pay for something that doesn’t respect the source material or previous games and focus on identity politics?

It doesn’t take away from the gameplay, but I can still play all the other Diablo games if I want a Diablo fix too, so why bother?

Great responses btw, I can definitely respect how you guys see the good intentions, but I won’t be agreeing sadly.

Your right, I also won’t be buying woke games, but I am still going to stand up and say it’s woke garbage.

Also, Female characters should be attractive, sex sells after all. That’s where I’ll end this, down with woke ideas in video games, they don’t sell.

• This reply was modified 8 months, 3 weeks ago by Salvince.
• This reply was modified 8 months, 3 weeks ago by Salvince.

@vknid absolutely. Hogwarts legacy was tolerable to say the least. Plus I have a fiance’ who loves Harry Potter stuff, so I had to buy it for her B-day and ironically, it PO’d a lot of woke people so it really was a slam dunk against woke crowd even if it went to a woke developer.

I can hold my ideals back if it means I can make my future wife happy and make woke losers miserable. Two wins in my book.

Still, I wish they didn’t put those characters in there, it simply should be about enjoying a game.

I’m sorry you feel that way, but unfortunately that is not the case at all, that you projecting what I think.

First, this has nothing to do with my “disagreement with a author, writer, dev,” you’re putting that spin on this conversation and pushing it onto me.

Let me clarify for you:”I do not want woke BS placed in my video games.” Quit pushing YOUR NARRATIVES into my discussions.

I know what I said, but you clearly don’t know what I said so let me spell it out for you: I don’t care if you’re a liberal, conservatives, or independent: putting your agendas in video games you expect ME TO BUY = me not buying them.

Let me give you an example: the writer who originally wrote the warriors was a former communist and a reformed socialist, I absolutely HATE SOCIALISTS AND COMMUNISTS (WHICH ARE THE SAME THING TO ME), but he wrote an amazing book that became an amazing movie and an amazing video game.

That’s perfectly fine, but the movie itself was majority based on an old Greek story about an army being 1000 miles from enemies, and escaping home, it wasnt about how communist Russia was such a great place to live.

Are you starting to understand what I’m saying? Are you even reading what I’m writing?

Second, where did I disparage anyone from having a conversation? How am I being divisive by having a conversation where I disagree? Parts of conversations are about disagreeing, I’m fine with that, I also agree plenty too. How am I making anyone miserable?

Speak for yourself, not others @vknid. You’re doing what socialist liberals often do: make false claims about someone you’re talking to and then project it onto them and then pretend to care about others.

You’re the only divisive person here because you’re literally doing everything right to try and aggravate me and it’s not going to work. If you don’t like being a moderator, then don’t moderate.

I actually enjoyed the conversation soynic and Thomas were talking about. They simply don’t mind the woke BS, that’s cool. That’s their thing. I said that in my first response, but I still have a right to disagree.

Wasnt it you who said: “you’re not going to agree with everyone.” Now you’re against me being objective against what others think.

You clearly care about everything I’m saying or else you wouldn’t be responding. You rather continue to see woke content pushed and ruin the video game community, that’s you. You simply don’t care about original work and effort that video games had and it’s being turned into woke agenda BS. That’s cool if you don’t care something I enjoy it being ruined. If that’s the case, why are you even responding?

My only political motivation here is to state the obvious about an industry that’s on the verge of going tits up because people are pushing woke BS in video games, a platform that was very non woke and fun for a very long time.

I find it selfish you feel the need to take off topic subject I provided and tried to make this about me.

If you don’t like what I have to say, stop being a moderator. You’re the divisive one here. Why are you on a forum you can’t handle the objective opinions of others?

I didn’t sit here and call anyone, any names, there’s no war here, just conversations.

And as for your “generals over foot soldiers” remark: what are you even talking about? I cant have a conversation with people without them being up in arms against me? I’m not fighting war with anyone here, I’m disagreeing and doing so respectfully.

Do yourself a favor and just stop moderating. You clearly can’t handle the objectional opinions of others, if you even take the slightest criticism I have about a woke company and turn it into something about “me being the problem.” You’re the problem, you are acting foolish. You act nothing like an actual conservative and you put your words in the mouths of others which id expect from liberal arts college drop outs. You’re a condescending, arrogant, and absolutely divisive person who needs to take a chill pill.

If you want to have an adult conversation without side barring, Ill be waiting in a zoom room.