YouTube vs Kick stream quality

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    In case you’re interested, here is the MediaInfo for a recent Fortnite stream – one for YouTube and one for Kick. TLDR: Kick is higher quality for both video and audio, but especially video.

    Kick:

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    Complete name : D:\YouTube\DDayCobra 199\DDayCobra – 2024-01-30 – Fortnite – Zero Build – 199 Cobra Street, Dub City USA – Kick.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media
    Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
    File size : 9.54 GiB
    Duration : 2 h 46 min
    Overall bit rate mode : Constant
    Overall bit rate : 8 181 kb/s
    Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
    Writing application : Lavf60.3.100

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : [email protected]
    Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, Reference : 4 frames
    Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=120
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 2 h 46 min
    Source duration : 2 h 46 min
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 8 003 kb/s
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Variable
    Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
    Minimum frame rate : 58.824 FPS
    Maximum frame rate : 62.500 FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.064
    Stream size : 9.33 GiB (98%)
    Source stream size : 9.33 GiB (98%)
    Color range : Full
    Color primaries : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709
    Codec configuration box : avcC

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC LC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
    Duration : 2 h 46 min
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 161 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel layout : L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 193 MiB (2%)
    Default : Yes
    Alternate group : 1

     

    YouTube:

    General
    Complete name : D:\YouTube\DDayCobra 199\DDayCobra 199 – 2024-01-30 – Fortnite – Zero Build – 199 Cobra Street, Dub City USA – YouTube.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media
    Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
    File size : 6.73 GiB
    Duration : 2 h 46 min
    Overall bit rate : 5 777 kb/s
    Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
    Writing application : Lavf60.3.100

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : [email protected]
    Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, Reference : 3 frames
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 2 h 46 min
    Bit rate : 5 636 kb/s
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.045
    Stream size : 6.56 GiB (98%)
    Title : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc.
    Color range : Limited
    Color primaries : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709
    Codec configuration box : avcC

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC LC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
    Duration : 2 h 46 min
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 128 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel layout : L R
    Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
    Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 153 MiB (2%)
    Title : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc.
    Language : English
    Default : Yes
    Alternate group : 1

     

    #312599
    Vknid
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      What are you basing better on?  The bit rate? File size? I think that could possibly be different based on better compression.

      Also, what were your player settings at the time?

      Were these downloaded or caught in flight?

      When you pull media from CDNs there are a lot of variables in play.  Sometimes you can pull the same file a few times and get different results.

      We must also consider if the uploader sent the exact same source media to both platforms.

      These look very similar to me if not maybe identical.

      Now if you watched them both on a good display and you saw a very noticeable quality difference that could for sure point to something. But just based off this file data I would not make that assumption.

      There has also been a trend (I have seen it on  the big video platforms) where file sizes have dropped in half.  I am not certain if this is better compression or just a reduction of quality to reduce storage costs.  Youtube might be participating in that.

      Just my thoughts on it.  Not saying you are wrong.  I would love to continue to talk about it if you can answer my questions.

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