Can’t shake the deep sense of sadness after watching LoTR Trilogy again

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  • #312104

    Can’t shake the deep sense of sadness after watching LoTR Trilogy for the 7th time.

    Hello, all.

    I’ve long been a fan of the fantasy genre, and yesterday I finished watching the LoTR extended trilogy for the 7th time in my life (I’m old enough to have watched the original ones in cinemas 20 years ago).

    The thing I simply cannot do is shake away the deep sense of sadness in knowing that stories like that will probably never be told again, let alone have such passion behind it to have movies so well done and with such a fantastic and beautiful soundtrack and, more importantly, respect (as much a possible when making a movie) for the original story without “currentdayism”.

    I am here to ask for the help of fellow individuals, who, like me, are tired of all the crap being shoved down our throats with modern Western content in general.

    I have never been a fan of animes or animations in general, but found myself loving “Sousou no Frieren” as of late after a friend nudged (pushed) me in that direction.

    I’m here to ask you all: I would like to ask you for recommendations on beautiful stories (none of that “subverting expectations and kill all characters” and everyone’s bad in their own way like Game of Thrones). The kind of stories that only someone who’s not on the left could create.

    Are there any movies, (or series) or even anime that you could recommend that follow that pattern?

    Life is already full of betrayal and duplicitous characters in the workplace and I don’t want my escapism to be a hellhole as well. LoTR is beautiful, has difficulties and brings about the best in friendship, loyalty and just beauty all-around. Is there anything that would get even close to it?

    Thank you all in advance, and I hope you all have a great day!

    #312105

    You’re talking about the best fantasy ever written and the best trilogies ever made. Nothing quite like it. I hope the Geeks help you out. I have no suggestions, but I did like The Forgotten Warrior Series by Larry Correia, staring with Son Of The Black Sword. Has familiar tropes, but it’s pretty good. Geeks might suggest One Piece?

    Probably shouldn’t respond because the people on this site are FAR more well read than myself.

    I feel your pain and share it. Someone posted a meme last week of Matt Murdock sitting with Stick in the park, so I went back and watched all 3 seasons of Netflix Daredevil. Felt nothing but pain and rage at how they destroyed that show and especially, the Kingpin character. That show was on Reacher level. It pissed me off even more. We can never let up on them. They did the same thing with Rings of Power, Willow, Wheel of Time, all ruined.

    geekdaredevil

    #312106

    I don’t quite know how to quote a previous post on this forum, so I’ll just reply directly:

    Thank you. Yes, I agree, they are destroying absolutely everything we ever loved or created, and I don’t think it’s incompetence (“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action”).

    I wish I had more of a creative mind (sadly I’m an engineer), so I could help by creating our own beautiful stories to directly oppose their destruction of everything that ever was beautiful in entertainment and culture.

    I see some parallels, but mostly people saying that “we shouldn’t include right-wing (aka: Tolkien) content, but rather just non-woke stuff”, and I think that’s a losing strategy. No empire, kingdom or civilization ever survived by “just wanting to be left alone”. We need to start pushing back very hard culturally speaking, with our own beautiful stories and narratives, and that’s why I turned to this forum, in the hopes of finding help and guidance in that direction.

    I’ll have a look at the Forgotten Warrior Series by Larry Correia, thank you for the recommendation.

    #312132

    If you can do anime/animations, maybe try Studio Ghibli productions; “Spirited Away” in particular comes to mind.

    #312133

    Try to keep this in mind. Great stories are born of great hardship.

    We won’t get another LOTR because the past generations struggeled so much more than we do.

    So we get the malais of modern entertainment, which is a struggle in itself! Especially if you’re a creator or a fan of quality stories.

    Here’s the good news, this is a struggle in itself. The great writers and creatives like Tolkien are out there, slaving away, unnoticed, suffering in this stupid world. And that’s where good stories come from.

    The pendulum always swings, just not as fast as we’d like it to. One things for sure, you can’t say it’s boring these days! Excited to see what the future holds, we could be on the precipice of a Renaissance.

    #312136

    One of the better fantasy anime I’ve seen is Yona of the Dawn. There is one problem with it; the story in the manga has gone well past where the anime has ended.

    There’s an older series called Record of Lodoss Wars. It has a very D&D feel to it.

    I’ll also recommend Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. The setting is more modern, but it has great characters, and while there are some pretty dark moments it is overall hopeful.

    #312188

    Thank you for the kind words and recommendations.

    I think you’re right. If anything, the current economic conditions and the fact that we, millennials, can’t even afford to own homes anymore (unless you got into the ponzi early on) is an indication that we’re about to see, and live, through some real hardship.

    It brings me back to ‘I wish it need not have happened in my time,’ said Frodo.
    ‘So do I,’ said Gandalf, ‘and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.’

    As such, I have now started researching what I can do to help push the culture to more beautiful stories, even if I have no idea where to start…

    If you have any other recommendations of beautiful stories in that same vein (whether anime or otherwise), please keep them coming. I am so done with nihilistic and woke lazy crap, that I utterly refuse to invest a single second watching anything for the pure objective of “entertainment”. I’m being very selective with what I invest my time and money on, and I wish more people would do the same. This is one of the ways we can shift the direction of this decline.

    Thanks again.

    #312229

    Trigun is mostly a blend of western and sci-fi, though there is a small but important fantasy-like element, but I think it may be the kind of story you’re looking for–a good guy who’s beliefs and ideals are put to the test.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OxFSy8G5wka

    Haibane Renmei is a favorite of mine, but I’m recommending it with some hesitation, as it may not be the kind of story you’re looking for. It’s not a series with lots of action and fighting, nor is it really a normal fantasy type of story.

     

    #312230

    Here are some shows I’d recommend:

    Breaking Bad/ Better Call Saul

    Blue Eye Samurai

    Beef

    The Bear

    Reacher

    Some might say a few of the shows above are “woke” but I don’t think so. In fact I find it comforting to see a show that looks like it might be woke on the surface, but ends up just being a damned good show with universal truths. One Piece was like that too.

    Oh, check out Red Dwarf too! It’s a little dated, but it’s so damned good, and so brutally honest. Great, smart sci fi without a hint of woke in it with MANY episodes, some of the best TV ever made. Upbeat, fun, heartfelt, with lots of great premises centering on the human condition.

    #312233

    Appreciate the suggestions from the Geeks. Sharp people. Knew they’d come thru, somehow.

    Unfamiliar with most, but must address Blue Eye Samurai for a brief moment. This show is woke, but it is excellent. Good characters and writing and lines and philosophy.

    Below is one of the first duels. At about the :30 second mark, there is an amazing sequence where the Samurai sees the outcomes of various attacks based on footwork, so the viewer can see the timeline play out. This is exactly the kind of thing that DUNE should have done with Paul Muad’Dib or Miles Teg where they have some kind of pre-cog, clairvoyant, future-sight. I know they showed it in the first movie, but I think Blue Eye Samurai did it much better in showing how that kind of ability would be like a superpower in winning battles.

    #312384

    This is why I buy physical media, be it DVDs, CDs, books, comics.

    I have seen too many being “edited” and “altered” or is no longer available to view/stream.

    My physical copy is MINE.  I can watch/re-read when I want, as often as I want, and not worry about them “editing” them to remove the director’s/author’s words and meanings.

    Since the LOTR: Fellow came out, I have only paid to see a film in the theaters five times total.

    For all movies/TV shows, I can wait till the DVD release (and then when they go on sale) for those I want.

    Way cheaper that way.

     

    And yay, they (hell-y-woke) won’t make such quality and faithful adaptions anymore.  They HAVE TO insert their woke-mind-virus content into everything they touch.

    They CAN’T have any traditional masculinity, traditional family values, positive role models, etc. as those ideals goes against their extremely toxic far alt left lunatic agenda/narrative.

    #312413

    Here are a couple of final recommendations from me, for more recent series.

    Frieren is actually still ongoing. It’s one I’ve like a lot. It’s a good twist on a common fantasy type of story.

    A couple of years ago, 86 was a bit of a surprise, and by the time the series ended I was close to putting it among my top-ranked anime series. It’s well worth giving a shot. As an aside, I like the soundtrack, too.

    #312606

    Thank you for the additional comments. I’ve been away for work the past week, but I’m back on the internetz this weekend.

    I’m already watching Frieren, and that’s, quite frankly (added to the LOTR rewatch) what triggered me to start this search, because I see that at least someone is still doing non-garbage hedonistic nihilistic Hollywood pure hot garbage. It’s just way, way, way nearly impossible to find it anywhere in the west.

    I’m now going to start researching some more into how I can help with the renaissance movement, even with my 0 creativity.

    Thanks again.

    • This reply was modified 4 months, 3 weeks ago by anti_woke.
    #313352

    Have not seen Season 1 of this, but it will take something extra to ever get to that LOTR level again. One key thing that was said was if there is anything beautiful in it. It’s one thing to make a recommendation of something good or something adequate, but to have that extra artistic type of soul or spark is something that may no longer exist in the modern era because the values and traditions have changed so much.

    Premise
    The series relates the adventures Igiby family, made up of grandfather Podo, mother Nia, and three children, Janner, Tink, and Leeli. They discover secrets of their family history, then run the evil Fangs of Dang who are occupying the country of Skree where the Igibys were raised. They combat Gnag the Nameless, the master of the Fangs. The story takes place in the fantasy world of Aerwiar, which has not developed electricity or firearms and which has a number of strange creatures.

    The show went through another round of crowdfunding with investment platform Angel Studios in May 2021. The campaign was able to raise $5 million in total, with $1 million being raised in the first 48 hours. This campaign met its goal, raising enough money to fund the production of Season 1, which covered and adapted the events of the first book. The first episode, Leeli and the Dragon Song (later renamed Leeli and the Sea Dragon Song), released on December 2 free on the Angel Studios app, YouTube, and Facebook. The second and third rounds of crowdfunding for Season 2 began soon after with a goal of $6.5 million. Production began in 2023 on Season 2, which covers the first half of Book 2, with a planned release date of early 2024. The series is being distributed by Angel Studios.

    #313353

    Best we can do is keep doing what we’re doing. Educate people about why our entertainment is bad. Not just the substance of the movies, but the actual sort of decay that’s going on in our society.

    It’s happened from the top down, and lots of good hard working people were subverted so the most lazy, entitled, and untalented folk in modern human history could steal away the kings to the kingdom. That trickles down and poisons our society and the minds of our children.

    Keep calling out the crap, recommend quality entertainment that has heart made by hard working, quality people.

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