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August 8, 2023 at 1:40 pm #304326
Vknid
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Steven Crowder has gathered a number of stand-up comics and other high profile personalities INCLUDING ALEX JONES to be a part of his new Mug Club endeavor/company.

I am ecstatic to see this. This is a MUCH better situation than him joining DailyWire. Is that because I dislike DailyWire? No, not at all. Crowder and DW essentially had a business disagreement. OK. Fine. No drama needed. In fact, I am not surprised that happened. Crowder and DW have entirely 2 different styles and personalities. It is better for EVERYONE if they each do their own thing and each are successful in their own right.

The only thing of use that came from all the DW vs. Crowder drama is I got to understand how vindictive and of low character Candance Owens is. I am not saying she is not intelligent nor even incorrect about her political stances. But those are different line items of the “personality budget” than your character or disposition.
August 8, 2023 at 7:44 pm #304332
Salvince
And this will breed healthy competition in trusted media outlets.

I don’t mind the disagreements but I don’t think Crowder is right though. A house divided against itself cannot stand either and even Crowder needs to understand that or else it will be harder for us to fight off woke cultism.

We need to function in unison.
August 8, 2023 at 9:10 pm #304338
Vknid
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“We need to function in unison.”

I disagree, that is how the radical left works and why it “works”. That is also why they could ultimately fail.

That uniformity in action gives the false impression of unity and righteousness. It’s a way to manufacture what appears to be consensus to everyone else.

If we combat that with the same thing then we are the monsters we claim to fight.

But all that nonsense can be fought the same way the nonsense came to power. Through culture and by laying bare the hypocrisy for all to see. Crowder doing his own thing in his own way is the expansion of that culture. And things tend to only grow when they are healthy and thriving. So I look forward to what this brings but , like you, I do not want to see them wage war on each other.

I hope more conservative and independent creators do this.
August 9, 2023 at 6:22 am #304351
Salvince
“That’s how the radical left works.”

Entirely false, the Radical left is constantly at odds against itself and alienated the rest of their voters. We are constantly seeing democrats attacking and maiming each other until there’s nothing left.

Hell, they can’t even accept JK Rowling, someone who agrees with them on almost every other subject.

The fact remains, MAGA/True Republicans need to work in unison to combat the misinformation and inhumane ideology that is the left. We can agree that we can do things differently, but it has to be to achieve the same goal.

Crowder being divisive is our weak point and doesn’t combat the issues at hand, it holds us as divisive which is the Democrats talking point against us.

I’m going to requote this statement as it holds true: A house divided against itself, cannot stand.
August 9, 2023 at 8:08 am #304353
comicsgate
Crowder and Savage both have a hidden secret. They actually will signal boost your channel and videos if they like you. For that reason, I have always liked Crowder even though I am not a regular listener, but I always liked him. Very charismatic. Alex Jones is a legend. I already have supported both in terms of buying merch.

At least they will make money on the short side of the country. The changing demographics ensure that they will have their careers, but it won’t matter a generation from now. They say Gen Z is the last and then, invaders will simply outnumber you in your own countries, but at least they get to make money, which is good.

Out of them all, I like Angel Studios. Gives a complete alternative to Hollywood and hopefully, they will focus more on inspirational films. That is the main reason I listen to Gospel music. It’s not so much the religion, but that everything else is either negative, egotistical, or oversexed to an annoying end.

The other wild card out there is Rippa, who seems to enjoy poaching talent with a track record of production and actually paying them, which is something Disney and Hollywood did not do. So, if Rippa finds good writers or artists, he tells them, roll with me and get paid more. He’s overt about that and I really admire him for that. He’s trying to pay people. Paying flesh and blood instead of A.I., for now, at least. He’s really a rare person. Despite anyone’s background, to have that attitude of high standards and work ethic and raising the bar and rising to the challenge is a huge task.
August 9, 2023 at 10:16 am #304356
Salvince
Love that Rippaverse. I’m getting my second comic dude. Love the writing. I’m a little upset I haven’t been on the cyberfrog train earlier. I want to get invested in that comic series too.

Crowder is good for us, but I just think he needs to work with daily wire even if it’s not on a employee level because it’s junkyard dogs like Crowder that get the most views, that get in your face and makes them face reality.

We need everyone on board whose outspoken like this because that’s how we will cure this cultural poison that’s entered our society.
August 9, 2023 at 1:02 pm #304364
Vknid
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@Silvince

I disagree quite literally with everything you said. I understand why you think those things but those lines of thought are how we got where we are now.

I would say you are correct about the left’s behavior to a degree. But you are confusing the group not marching in lockstep with them excommunicating people from the group. Which they do constantly because they always move the goalposts because they have too. You cannot cry about an ‘ism an ‘ist or ‘phobe after society complies to your demands unless you keep moving the target so you can keep making demands.

Nothing is gained by the right doing the same. I am not even sure what terms to use anymore. We all used to say Democrat or Republican but those are (for the most part) one in the same now on a party level as it relates to elected folks. I honestly don’t think we should even use Right vs Left.

The right does not need to succeed for society to get better. The radical left alone just needs to lose. The only “teams” are the radical left and everyone else.

EDIT – It’s cool if we disagree, no harm no foul. Things can be discussed either way.
- This reply was modified 9 months ago by Vknid.
August 9, 2023 at 3:50 pm #304369
Salvince
You can disagree until you’re blue in the face, but the reason why so many sane and logical people are leaving Leftist ideologies behind us because they’re so divisive and horrible to society. They are divided amongst each other and will excommunicate and attack each other.

That’s what you’re advocating for when you say we shouldn’t work in unison. I’m not saying we enforce a totalitarian ideology, I’m saying we work together to rid ourselves of a globalist ideology that was poisoning our society for years.

We didn’t get here because people were working together, we got here because there was a silent globalist and elitist agenda being pushed into our society for decades and no one could point it out without being shut down by the media or politicians.

Working together as the “NO LONGER SILENT” majority is what we can do it undermine the woke agenda that’s been forced into our society.

Leftists don’t work together, they’ll destroy each other as much as they destroy themselves. Republicans in Florida worked together to vote Desantis and make sure we kept our anti woke policies to remain freer than any other state.

You’re mincing my words around undermine my argument. The fact is if we continue to argue amongst ourselves and refusing to acknowledge we are on the same side trying to remove the horrid anti culture that’s infested this country, it will fall to leftist ideology.

You are definitely wrong on this because nothing good will come from us arguing amongst each other while the deep state undermines our freedoms, Biden sells out to China, and all the more big investment banks shuts Americans out of their money.

And in case you haven’t noticed, republicans have started to form a separate faction: MAGA Republicans. Have you heard the term RINO republicans? Those are republicans that bend the knee to woke ideology and globalism.

Really what this is coming down to is you willfully thinking that working together to defeat a common enemy is the same as allowing leftist ideology to continue in this country.

What you are saying makes zero sense.
August 9, 2023 at 4:00 pm #304370
Salvince
And it’s cool if we disagree. I’m fine with the fact we disagree, but we do carry the same goals of what we want less of in society.

I’m not saying we all conform to the same arguments, the same way of thinking, but when we all hate Woke BS and want to get rid of it, it does us ZERO JUSTICE to say working together will cause the same issue the leftist ideology has created because the one thing that we all agree on: we don’t want woke BS in our society anymore. That’s all I need to be on this side.
August 9, 2023 at 4:11 pm #304371
Vknid
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Well working together and marching in lockstep is 2 different things.

The way the left does this is they have a central hivemind that pushes things down from the top through the media. If we were to also try to march in step that way we would have to work just like that, we don’t want that.

So we don’t march in lockstep but we all agree on the same goals and work together in organically different groups. That’s ACTUAL diversity.

And again I see there only being 2 “sides”. The radical left and everyone else that stands against that tyrannical nonsense whether you are independent, conservative or OG liberal.
August 9, 2023 at 5:25 pm #304372
Salvince
I see what you mean now. Lockstep. Nah I’m saying we can go about our own ways, as long as it’s to achieve the right goals.

We aren’t going to restricted to a single narrative, we never were. We are against immorality, leftist perversions, and the undermining of our American Constitutional rights.

As long as we are all calling it out, we are all working to eradicate their false narratives, victimhood status, and finally see the change we have sought after, working in unison would be the goal.

Unison in the sense we are locking onto a single target, not marching to the beat of the same drum.

Daily wire has their way of doing things, Crowder has his way. The important goal here is to snap people out of the woke delusions and false narratives and fight for our Truth, Justice, and the American way.

We aren’t even bound by the single ideology. Republicans are starting a wave of change that has been reaching the Senate, reaching the deep state, and actually has some massive effects.

I’ve never seen corruption exposed at such a critical level of our country.

Whether it was Trump himself, the hidden warriors in modern society, or whoever breached the walls of big media to deface the walls media have built, but I know I want the truth being exposed like this at all times in my life moving forward.
August 9, 2023 at 7:01 pm #304380
Vknid
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“We are against immorality, leftist perversions, and the undermining of our American Constitutional rights.”

Well said.

That’s really about it when you boil it all down right? From OG liberal to independent to conservative they all agree on that for the most part. That’s the thing that frustrates me so. We are so busy falling for the label/tribal bait hook line and sinker that we don’t realize we all (together) have the power. And sure, we all think differently about certain topics but at the end of the most people agree on most things in a large degree.

“Daily wire has their way of doing things, Crowder has his way”

Yes! Let them each do their own thing and be different. Now to your point, they should NOT spend effort hating on each other. Disagreement is fine. Dislike is even fine. Just don’t actively attack each other.

“Republicans are starting a wave of change that has been reaching the Senate, reaching the deep state, and actually has some massive effects.”

Republicans as a political party is not doing sh!t. They are 100% collaborators with the Democrats. Sure, there is a handful of outcasts who care and try but I think most of the change you see is coming from culture pushing in the opposite direction and nothing at all to do with a political party. In fact I would say the change you see is in spite of the Republican party.

“Whether it was Trump himself, the hidden warriors in modern society, or whoever breached the walls of big media ..”

Trump played a part in it for sure. He was what he is when we needed it. A “bull in a chyna shop” :P Again I think the push and change is coming from independent media that has been growing and building for about a decade in spite of YT and FB attempting to kill it and the people who follow that media and who have detached themselves from the Matrix.

With that said I personally think Trump needs to be done running for office for 2 reasons.

1) we need someone fresh with new ideas but the same wrecking ball spirit but whom can perform surgical strikes on the most critical things (Vivek maybe)

2) I think Trump is actually more powerful and effective as an anti-establishment influencer. His political acumen has proven to be so-so at best in my opinion.
- This reply was modified 9 months ago by Vknid.
August 10, 2023 at 11:45 pm #304505
DarthVengeant
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After the leaked video of Crowder and his wife, I question stuff like this and anything he does now. That’s just the facts for me.
August 16, 2023 at 2:15 am #304767
SuperSoynic_Speed
After the leaked video of Crowder and his wife, I question stuff like this and anything he does now. That’s just the facts for me.

I’ve questioned anything he does or says since discovering how dishonest he is. Even his sexuality. The man sure does love to dress up in drag in situations where it’s not even necessary lmao
August 16, 2023 at 12:47 pm #304784
Vknid
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“After the leaked video of Crowder and his wife, I question stuff like this and anything he does now. That’s just the facts for me.”

You mean the video she leaked? If any of us were to be judged by a single minute of our lives that someone who is jilted and angry at you got to select, pretty sure that would not look good for for any of us.

Could he be an a-hole? Could be.

If he is an a-hole does that make him abusive or even evil? No

I am not ready to condemn someone simply because of a single video that appears to be just 2 folks being bitchy with each other.
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