Kanye – Mad genius or simply mad?

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    Time’s man of the year… now that’s the hallmark of good character, isn’t it? Right there among Biden, Ayatolla Khomenei and Stalin.

    The allies bombed churches? Did you read that crap from David Duke? The US went out of its way not to hit the churches. See Cologne here

    Only three major German churches were destroyed. Hamburg, Berlin and Dresden. The big tower of the Hamburg cathedral still stands. I oughta know, I’ve been to it. Don’t believe the shit you read on stormfront.
    As for David Duke quotes: “A black…gets a job with a white-owned company. He is the only black at the firm. He works hard, but he’s fighting a losing battle against his genes.”   “The Jews are trying to destroy all other cultures…as a survival mechanism…the only Nazi country in the world is Israel.”
    Maybe that’s why people hate the guy. Because he’s an actual Nazi.

    As for your Granddad getting hit by friendly fire, what does that prove? That the Germans were the good guys? All it proves is that Americans sucked at battlefield coordination.

    Zelensky isn’t outlawing any Churches. He’s going after the Russian Orthodox Church. For obvious reasons, because he’s a fucking Nazi who hates Russians. The Ukrainian, Catholic etc churches all remained open.

    Yeah I know, everyone uses Hitler as a term for whomever they don’t like. The comparisons stink in most cases, except maybe Soros – who was an actual Nazi collaboreator in WW2. The thing is, all those people almost universally use Hitler as an example of evil. Except Kanye West. That guy is actually dumb enough to praise Hitler. A guy who caused the death of 60 million people in total in WW2.

    Great role model ya got there.

    #289279

    Never said Hitler was a role model. In fact, we were taught to be afraid of Hitler and David Duke our entire lives. Who really caused the death of all those people though? In fact, since World War 2, who has killed more people, Germans or Americans? It’s ironic that today, any American who might oppose any war for whatever reason, is called a Hitler sympathizer or Nazi sympathizer. If you are an American, and actually oppose violence for any reason, you are called a Nazi sympathizer. Or if you point out Zelensky or Sam Bankman-Fried, or any other of the arms dealers, war profiteers, looters or money-launderers.

    As for the accusation, I’m used to it by now, Hillary.

    “You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

    If a person opposes Woke, for any reason, they are called all these things. If a person does not want to take a knee, or wear a rainbow, or take a vaccine shot, or bend over for Yoel Roth, they will be labeled the next Hitler, or the next Nazi. WTF does it mean? Nothing.

    At first, I never liked Ye and cringed at the Alex Jones interview. Seeing the same old tired boomer arguments made by Alex and others, I now think West is correct.

    Again, what was Ye’s most hateful comment? No one has been able to respond to this basic question. Was it the obvious “Not all Nazis” line? In my households from family on all sides, there is nothing but hate for Nazis and Hitler, but it’s an auto-response, and I think that is what Ye was getting at. It was mentioned on a debate today that the easiest way to trigger Orwell’s “2 Minutes of Hate” was just to show a picture of Hitler.

    In the 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four the Two Minutes Hate is the daily, public period during which members of the Outer Party of Oceania must watch a film depicting the enemies of the state, specifically Emmanuel Goldstein and his followers, openly and loudly to express hatred for them

    While you’re hating on Hitler and Nazis, Zelensky and SBF and the political class are  fleecing all of your countries. It’s actually way too easy for them to do this. It’s no wonder the public is considered wet-behind-the-ears suckers and chumps and dupes.

     

    #289358

    Well obviously America is the 4th Reich. But what does one have to do with the other? Just because the Regime tells you that Putin or Trump are Hitler, doesn’t mean you have to suddenly have sympathies for Hitler.

    People generally have sympathies for Hitler for one and ONLY one reason: because he killed Jews. No other reason. The rest of his policies are not unique. You can find them with the likes of Marx, Stalin, Chavez, Zelensky, the EU, the Democrat party, etc. But the one thing that really makes Hitler stand out is the systematic genocide of the Jews. So anyone who points out liking Hitler has only one reason to do it. I’ve actually seen this happen first hand in countries like Egypt which I had to travel to for work. Taxi drivers would ask me where I was from, and I always said Germany, because I know Germany is popular in those garbage countries. I cannot even count how many times someone said “Oh Germany, great, I love Hitler”.  And they’ll openly tell you they love him because he killed Jews. Same with Fuentes, Kanye and all the other low IQ twats on the religious right. They couldn’t tell you the first thing about his domestic or economic policies. They know he killed Jews. Anyone saying “I love Hitler” wants more of that.

    People are still able to make the Hitler comparisons, because there are a few religious nutcases on the right who will agree with or defend people like Fuentes or Kanye. If the right would properly distance itself from them, such comparisons couldn’t be made anymore. Especially since the left is a lot closer to Hitler ideologically.

    #289371

    It has to do with blaming one country for the deaths of all those people.

    In life, the topic has never come up no matter where I have ever worked and I have worked all kinds of jobs. Never has Hitler come up in casual conversation in my entire life. I’ve never heard of anyone catching a cab and saying “hit the gas like Hitler, because I need to get downtown fast.”

    Until this most recent Ye interview, I do not recall Fuentes mentioning Hitler in the past. I do not know any admirers of the guy, so I don’t make assumptions of why someone would. Only once in my entire life have I heard one person say that they did think National Socialism was the best kind of system for their own country, and again, Hitler was not mentioned in that conversation.

    Nothing in the past justifies what is being done to people like Ye, Fuentes and many others. Being de-banked and de-platformed for no crime. It’s comical and absurd to even consider either one of them a threat.

    There is no longer any reason to distance oneself from anyone if you have already been slandered as Hitler or a Nazi. That is being ruled by fear and being controlled by fear. Once Hillary, Dems, anyone slanders those on the right with those terms, why bother catering to the likes of liars?

    #289586

    The Israelis have blamed several others as well. Had a little diplomatic row with Poland lately since Poland denies there was widescale collaboration with the Nazis. There was.

    WW2…  who else would you blame? Germany started it (or maybe Japan, since they invaded China in ’37). Germany even turned on its own ally, Russia.
    However, one could go back a bit, look at WW2 as a continuation of WW1, since the treaty of Versailles possibly contributed to Hitler’s election (but really it’s just that Germans to this day have a big government fetish). I definitely don’t blame Germany for WW1. France wanted that more than anyone and constantly lobbied Britain to stop Germany before it grew too big (and indeed, Imperial Germany would have likely invaded France eventually).

    Obviously Fuentes is smart enough not to openly praise Hitler. Most of the GAB people are smart enough not to show their hand like that. And it’s not necessary. They say the same things Hitler said. Or praise National Socialism.

    Which, ironically, is pretty much the form of government of the EU and US at this point.

    I didn’t say I was in favor of deplatforming Fuentes or Ye. I said they are Nazis / the same kind of Christian fundamentalists as the Nazis. They should have their freedom of speech like everyone else. And yes, Banks should not be able to discriminate against anyone who hasn’t broken the law. Obviously if someone is collecting funds for Al Qaida or violent groups, then that is a different story, but for saying offensive or stupid things? That is fascism.

    Ye and Fuentes haven’t been slandered as Nazis. They ARE Nazis. There are a million reasons not to be a Nazi. Pandering to the Democrats ain’t one of them. Especially since the Democrats are the ideological successors of the Nazis. I hate Nazis, that’s why I hate Democrats.

    #289614

    No matter how many times it is said, no serious person is ever going to believe that Ye or Fuentes are Nazis. Neither Nick nor Ye have a scientific nor military background, nor any German connections. To call them Nazis makes me think the name-caller is the mad person. Paranoid psychosis. That dog won’t hunt.

    Here’s one reason I am grateful for Ye. Ari Emanuel comes out and tells blacks to ally with jews against whites and no one says anything about that. No one in media. No politician. No pastor. You have Ari Emanuel and Jon Stewart both say that blacks and jews should team up against whites in a country where most whites have already lost relatives in those world wars. Again, not worthy of a response from any politician? Any media network? It’s another thing that confirms Ye is correct. Why not denounce such racial division and threats by Ari? Is it the fear of being called a name? It’s the only explanation that there is rule by tremendous FEAR!

    It’s too convenient to want to debate something 80 years ago than to talk about who controls the entertainment industry right now and pushes all this woke nonsense while Zelensky bleeds all your countries dry. Zelensky is looting all of your countries right now and this is why you are hearing Hitler and Nazis talk.

    I could accept that Nick and Ye are actors, entertainers, agents, any of those things, but they are definitely not Nazis. No criminal records. Never killed anyone to our knowledge. I could not call them Nazis with a straight face. Embarrassing absurdity.

    We hear nothing about communists. Why? It’s like they are totally invisible to any kind of focus.

    It makes you wonder, as elders and cripples who served the country are in waiting rooms waiting to be euthanized, if they are still looking for Nazis to fight. Have you people been that brainwashed to be as dumb as that?

    #289754

    No matter how many times it is said, no serious person is ever going to believe that Ye or Fuentes are Nazis. Neither Nick nor Ye have a scientific nor military background, nor any German connections. To call them Nazis makes me think the name-caller is the mad person. Paranoid psychosis.

    they spew out anti-semitic nazi talking points so that fits the criteria of being a neo-nazi. Fuentes is just another alt righter but Ye is a guy who is literally insane and exploited by these alt righters to boost him down that rabbit hole.

    while Zelensky bleeds all your countries dry. Zelensky is looting all of your countries right now

    Maybe Ukraine wouldn’t be asking and receiving so much aid if Putin and Russia didn’t fucking invade them first?

    #289762

    What talking points are those? Are the talking points truthful and factual or lies? Ye and Nick were both very specific about who they had issues with and why. I can respect Wisdom for saying that they should not have been deplatformed, but…we don’t live in a “Supposed to be” world. I also like some other posters for their idealism, but your countries are changing and that will forever ensure that there will be no common morality.

    There is no end to Zelesnky’s looting and thieving and bribing. Zelensky is always going to ask for more. He came to power playing pecker-piano and is a disgusting figure. He is someone I’ll never support. Ever. His buddy Sean Penn just stated that the unvaxxed are criminals and wants to stick you with needles like a pin cushion. You are being governed by bad acting troupes and poor sketch comedy groups.

    #290007

    Are the talking points truthful and factual or lies? Ye and Nick were both very specific about who they had issues with and why. I can respect Wisdom for saying that they should not have been deplatformed

    Nick literally said when he was in school everyone loved Hitler and even Gavin Mcinnes, who shoved a dildo up his asshole on air to own the libs, was like bro you’re unhinged. And Ye popped off with his I love Hitler and his sponsors rightfully withdrew. They are both anti-semitic neo nazis but Ye is kinda excused because he clearly is unstable but Nick is just a greasy mom’s basement nazi.

    There is no end to Zelesnky’s looting and thieving and bribing. Zelensky is always going to ask for more.

    it is true that Ukraine still is a pretty corrupt country, which is one of the reasons it has not been given permission to join the EU, but under Zelensky the corruption has been decreasing. Ukraine used to be a puppet state for Russia and the corruption basically coming from Russia, but Zelensky was elected as the nation got tired of career politicians and Russian lap dogs. Zelensky wanting Ukraine to move away from being under Russia’s thumb and towards the west, which Russia clearly didn’t like and now we are here.

    Ukraine wouldn’t be ”looting and bleeding countries dry”, also known as asking for military aid, unless a country 28 times bigger attacked them. You’re just talking nonsense. Or do you think Ukraine staged an attack on themselves so they can ask for help and ”loot” other countries? The reason why so many countries wish to help Ukraine is because Ukraine is not only fighting for themselves but for whole Europe and western civilization. Backing down here would signal the it is okay for Russia to occupy territories little by little and to slowly consume other countries.

    The same thing happened with Finland post WW2 where we functioned from under Soviet Union’s boot and our foreign politics was about keeping Russia happy and not pissing them off but there was a turning point which culminated this year in Finland joining NATO. We got sick of being bullied around by Russia and took a stance, and our economy and welfare has increased after distancing from Russia and the east. The same will happen with Ukraine.

    #290009
    Vknid
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      “but under Zelensky the corruption has been decreasing. Ukraine used to be a puppet state for Russia and the corruption basically coming from Russia,”

      Not really.  It’s corrupt as it ever as from what I understand.  The only difference is instead of being a puppet of Russia it is now a puppet of the west.  I say that as an American unhappy with my own country’s inference in other nations. So maybe we can argue they are on the side of the west and maybe that is better but overall I just want America to stop messing with other nations either directly or indirectly.  Our homeless starve and our vets want for basic things but we send billions to Ukraine.  Our politicians flood our own borders but spend OUR money on defending Ukraine’s borders.

      Let’s call out this Ukraine stuff for what it is.  A war started by Russia yes but egged on by the west.  Why?  So the elite and politicians can steal tax payer money.  The war pigs are feasting at the trough.

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      #290015

      Zelensky outlawed media and other political parties. Is the corruption increasing or decreasing?

      Zelensky told Americans that this was investing. Well, investing with Zelensky is like investing with Sam Bankman-Fried, who made bail the very same day Zelensky asked for 65 billion dollars.

      The Taliban and VietCong were both able to win without asking for billions. Zelensky sounds like he is not a real leader and not a real fighter.

      Ye and Nick are not the problem. Ye and Nick are not mad, but I could accept that dropping the Hitler and Nazis line served as a great distraction from what we knew was coming, which was Zelenky’s looting for a war where only White Christians are being killed. On my side, we pray for peace every day, but did you know you can’t even be that? If you do an image search for pray for peace in Ukraine and Russia, the image results themselves are biased towards Ukraine. Someone said that twitter accounts critical of the Zelensky speech were removed.

      Ye and Nick are not the problem. Ye and Nick are not the ones costing your economy and spreading warfare. Not sure if it can be said in a way that gets through to people because I know what it is like to be brainwashed in the west. When this Ukraine/Russia war started, both sides accused the other of being Nazis. Americans have no ability to think outside of that box because it’s the only time they felt like they won a war. That one and the Revolutionary war. Now, the shackles and chains of the financial burden combined with the open borders dilution is ending the nations of the west. None of this is due to Ye or Nick.

      Mr. Z’s wife spent $42,000 per hour shopping in Paris. It’s just the latest in corruption red flags like luxury villas highlighted in the Pandora Papers while the “War Party” military industrial complex sponsors a party for their favorite customer. Whilst his wife enjoys a 40,000 shopping spree in Paris, he is being handed billions more from both the UK and America – all whilst public services crumble and the cost of living sky rockets.

       

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      #290607

      Not really.  It’s corrupt as it ever as from what I understand.

      according to corruption and transparency indexes it’s lower since Zelensky became president than it’s been in previous 10 years. Not much, but noticeably. A country as corrupt as Ukraine takes a while to clean out. I prrsonally think it’s good to back up Ukraine even though they do have their problems since Russia is a way bigger and more imminent threat.

      Let’s call out this Ukraine stuff for what it is.  A war started by Russia yes but egged on by the west.  Why?  So the elite and politicians can steal tax payer money.  The war pigs are feasting at the trough.

      this just sounds like american right wing propaganda. The war is causing global energy crisis. There’s no way anyone wants the war to continue, and especially not Ukraine. What are your sources or reasoning behind this? No country would be sending things to Ukraine unless Russia attacked. It’s just absurd how when any catastrophe or globally huge incident happens the right wing NPC talking point always seems to be about ”they try to steal our money”. But always fail to explain who exactly and how or showing any kind of evidence to back up the claims.

      #290608

      Zelensky outlawed media and other political parties. Is the corruption increasing or decreasing?

      he outlawed pawns of Putin. Opposition leaders with ties to Putin, Kreml and Russia. You know, the country which invaded them and tried to murder Zelensky and out their own puppet on the throne. Pretty reasonable for me, they were traitors.

      Zelensky told Americans that this was investing. Well, investing with Zelensky is like investing with Sam Bankman-Fried, who made bail the very same day Zelensky asked for 65 billion dollars.

      yes, investing in a peaceful future without having Russia consume other nations, expanding its territories and threat.

      which was Zelenky’s looting for a war where only White Christians are being killed. The Taliban and VietCong were both able to win without asking for billions. Zelensky sounds like he is not a real leader and not a real fighter.

      Ukraine is being invaded by ine of the biggest forces in the world and is lacking in heavy weaponry in both quality and quantity. Zelensky was given the option to flee Kiev but he decided to stay while Vladimir ”underwear poisoner” Putin hides in his bunker like a rat sending his brainwashed zombies on suicide missions, even after promising there won’t be a mobilization.

      which was Zelenky’s looting for a war where only White Christians are being killed.

      oh my god that is just psychotic nonsense. Let me get this straight, you post a lot of insane conspiracy theories and fake information like the fake edited picture of Zelensky with a swastika and try to paint this as Ukraine’s war. Do you believe Ukraine is more at fault than Russia?

      Mr. Z’s wife spent $42,000 per hour shopping in Paris.

      which was only a rumour without credible sources posted by right wing media and psychos like Klandace Owens. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it’s true, that’s pretty shitty and cringe yeah. But was it her money or the money from other countries? But you know what’s even worse than that? Invading another country. Ukraine wouldn’t even be asking for anything unless Adolf Putler decided to do an insane attack.

      Ye and Nick aren’t part of the war problem true and ofc. But they are a problem since they are normalizing anti-semitism and spewing neo nazi garbage with a big following.

      #290764

      Where is Ye? He has been looted and silenced for committing no crime. Nick Fuentes has no criminal record, and yet, he was deplatformed and debanked. The problem is on the other end since they are the ones being overpowered. Ye and Nick are not looting us nor censoring us. Neither one has ever even held a position of power. No one with any mental clarity could say they are the problem. They don’t sit on any committees.

      Anyway, for people with sense and history, you might find the below video interesting. George Lucas himself says that the Ewoks were based on the Viet Cong 100%. Russia is acting in their sphere of influence. They were told NATO would not expand behind certain parameters. Zelensky is a shyster fraud and is only in it for himself and not the Ukrainian people, who I like very much. I like Ukrainians. The money should all just gone to them instead of tyrant dictator Zelensky, the pecker piano playing, disrespectful clown.

      Star Wars actor Mark Hamill has great concern for the people of Ukraine and, during a recent TV appearance, noted that Ukraine is the only sovereign country in the world to have been invaded since World War II. Hamill is hopelessly wrong, of course, and his home country of the United States is the worst offender, having invaded any number of “sovereign” states since World War II, including Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba – the list goes on and on.

      #290765

      Ye and Fuentes were deplatformed since their side has no political power, correct. What happens when their side does have political power…  well we know how that went.
      Fuentes openly stated he wants the US to be a dictatorship. No different than any other leftist.

      Also who says Zelensky is in any way shape or form a representative of Jewish people? Did we vote for that motherfucker? No. We voted for Netanyahu. He’s the only one allowed to speak in our name.

      Zelensky is a US puppet who leads a nazi country. A nazi country so stupid they don’t realize the motive for this war against Russia is indeed that Russia is not going along with white genocide. Which is the agenda of the West, make no mistake about it. That is the end goal. All policies in the US and other Western countries are designed, through things like diversity quotas, progressive taxation, affirmative action, racial bias in hiring in high paying government jobs, mass immigration etc to reduce the number of whites. Whites will become a minority in Western countries within 1 generation. After that, it will be open season, like in South Africa. White genocide is the goal, absolutely. Russia and East Europe are the last refuges for white people. That’s the the US and EU started this war against Russia.

      Therefore: Glory to Russia.

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