Kremlin recognizes Eastern Ukraine’s independence, troops to maintain peace

Putin’s speech yesterday was truly terrifying to hear as a Finn. He talked about ”the mistake of Lenin”, referring to when Lenin allowed certain countries to become their own separate and individual countries from the Russian empire. And Finland was one of those. This speech is probably the biggest threat to our independence we have ever faced, as it made things pretty clear what Putin thinks about us. We are not our own country, but a part of Russia running loose, and now it looks like Putinin is trying to establish the Russian empire again, ”correcting Lenin’s mistake”.

• This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by SuperSoynic_Speed.

The Donetsk and Luhansk regions of eastern Ukraine voted overwhelmingly to secede from Ukraine, and the populations of both are overwhelmingly Russian, yet Putin refused to annex them. Even today, Putin is only responding to the US and NATO putting warships in the Black Sea and conducting war exercises near Russia’s border. I feel like this whole Russia-Ukraine thing is just being stirred up by the US government and the old media to try and distract the public from the horrible things that they’re doing

We have ZERO business doing anything in Ukraine.  Did not like us f’ing in Iraq or Kuwait?  We should not be dinking with Ukraine either.

We need to worry about our own house and not other houses we don’t have specific treaties with.

So why does this happen?  So the war mongers can continue to rape the tax payer. PERIOD.

Whether it’s war, Covid or any other conjured existential crisis, it’s ALL about extorting money from the tax payer.

I am old enough to recall many attempts at this:

-satanic panic (in the 90’s)

-SARs

-AIDs

-Mad Cow

etc etc etc etc, rinse and repeat

@SuperSoynic_Speed

You seem to echo much of what is on the MSM.

Why do you care what Trump does or thinks?  He does not hold any office, here is a mere citizen.  Why not worry about the problems we have here that Biden and company is either causing or doing nothing about?  Inflation, energy costs, hobbled economy, lack of borders…  All things killing us right now but here we are talking about Ukraine.

I do not believe Ukraine is a NATO member.  To my understanding that was being discussed but it has not been ratified.

Russia IS NOT our greatest threat.  China is.

@SuperSoynic_Speed

So I understand your thoughts about Russia and I see your concern.  Is it unfounded?  Not at all.  Clearly for you they are a threat. You probably know more about them than I do but I do not believe they have the infrastructure or economy to even attempt to roll over multiple countries at once.  Now can they play the long game and do it slowly, yes that might be a possibility but I do not think they are doing that personally speaking.

With all that said I still stand by my China claim but I was speaking in more of a general worldwide sense.

Why?

China IS/HAS already invaded MANY countries and have deeply done so.  They just don’t use troops, they use economics and politics. I personally find that to be a greater threat than Russia’s army.

And I still think Trump is not at all your problem.  If I were you I would pay more attention to the folks in the White House because, well, they are in control now.  Trump for all intents and purposes has no power regardless of how much he flaps his gums.  Which he does do a lot of.    The thing (IMHO) you might need to worry about is if war comes your way not because Putin wants it, but because the war mongers decide they need more cash for their coffers.

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I am certain Putin knows that currently the USA cares only about controlling it’s people and making money for the elite.  He is not concerned with us.  In fact, this might be why the whole Ukraine thing is a thing to begin with.  Putin sees an opportunity.