Women in gaming; is it really a good idea?

Years ago I introduced my Niece to Skyrim and her ability to handle the combat was limited compared to typical boy’s her age but I thought her how to get better.

Her first Dragon fight she got so scared she dropped the controller but within 10 minutes she beat her first Dragon.

Than after that it was Fallout 4, a lesser experience but more scarry to be sure and she handled it better.

After that she started choosing her own games to play, I’ve never played Overwatch but she checked it out and played for a time, she did say that the space was a bit weird and people where talking about gender and sexuality of these characters and since has moved on.

Than she played Detroit: Become Human and became very engaged with the story and characters, when one of them died she was affected by it.

There’s definitely wokeness in Detroit: Become Human but I enjoyed it too.

In the end it comes down to certain factor’s in the industry.

Leadership: Leader’s guide the worker’s on what’s acceptable workplace behaviour.

Hiring: Hiring based on identity instead on ability.

Fear (Cowardice): Fear of the rabid oppression by the most vocal oppressors and the cowardice not to face it.

My Niece was showing interest and watching me and her Dad play Skyrim so I lead her to play her own save.

She lacked ability at first but I helped her to develop her own abilities and she went on to further develop her own.

When faced with fear in the games she buckled at first than after her first triumph went to face more with greater success.

I believe the core issues are the same across geekdom, bad mindsets are being encouraged and developed.

Any company that hire’s someone because of irrelevant characteristics like colour, race, gender are getting what they deserve when we abandon them but the damage to us is felt for years to come.

I’ve come to accept that we cannot stop what is happening to the games we loved but we have to focus on saving what isn’t yet lost and learning the lessons for the future.

A certain level of gatekeeping is needed but too much is bad.

• This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by Cerabelus.

Sexist

I get why after everything that’s happened since 2014 guys feel like they can’t trust women anymore and/or suspicious of their motives. Quite frankly, on average, women do seem more drawn to wokeism than men – There’s something cloyingly feminine about it which I can’t quite put my finger on (worth noting virtually all of its male proponents are effeminate men).

But even during GamerGate’s heyday, there were plenty of women speaking out because they thought the accusations were untrue and Anita was being disingenuous. More often than not these examples of “sexism” in the gaming industry were just some idiots online who would say something vulgar or rather thirsty, but gals in the community understood that was a consequence of Gamer culture and being part of what was essentially a “boy’s club.”

Most guys didn’t really care if you were a girl, just as long as you weren’t some kind of parasite. The harpies, on the other hand, only got into gaming in recent years because it was “cool” and “safe” to pick up a controller and were just shocked that anyone could talk to them in such a manner (they probably had a very sheltered life until then).

Anyway, I see no reason to barr women from creative industries: Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein is one of the best novels of English literature. There are women who like designing and playing as sexy women because it’s empowering to be thought of as attractive to men. There are women who have written good male characters and you wouldn’t have known unless you were told, (because they, y’know, don’t hate men) (while the original American Psycho novel was written by a man, are you aware the screenplay was written and directed by a woman)? Women like fiction, perhaps more so than men. It’s inevitable they’ll be drawn to such outlets.

It’s really a matter of distinguishing the good faith actors from the bad. If you think that’s insufficient, then we should work towards shifting the culture to make wokeism as unappealing to as many women as possible.

@quickbeam1213 nice work refuting an argument I never made. Of course more good video games are developed by men, the sheer mathematics already back it. In an industry with more male workers, chances are there are more good video games made by males. If you wanna count every shitty video game then I’m sure you would find the same result. Men make more shitty video games.

I 100% guarantee you that the only reason we have had some of the legendary franchises of the past is because men were calling the shots.

The reason I gave you the list was to prove this statement to be false.

Also, I’m still waiting for you to answer how you would implement this genius idea. Who would gatekeep that there aren’t too many females working in the industry, and how is this aligned with equal opportunity and giving everyone the freedom to choose their career path?

Like any other entertainment industry, the important thing is hiring qualified people (no matter their gender) with the capacity to create a quality product that will, in fact, entertain their audience, make a profit, and improve the industry.

Right now, in most entertainment industries, the opposite is happening. Non-qualified people are hijacking the industries to destroy them and remaking them in their favor, for political/ideological reasons. Unfortunately, most of those people are women / non-binary, and that’s why people will ask stuff like this and, reasonably, consider if it isn’t better to gatekeep our hobbies.

Mainstream comics are completely done already, no hope. There is still hope for gaming and tv, but if we stay quiet, it might happen the same thing that happened to comics…

A female friend of mine was discussing this topic with me and then she just told me to relax and “don’t be such a cry baby, your entertainment is fine”, then I asked her if suddenly a bunch of Gym Bros hijacked her yoga classes all the time and said: “ok girls, now the classes are going to be more inclusive and instead of this relaxing shit music, we’ll start to listen to some heavy metal and drink beer while we squat”, would you be happy with that? She was silent for 10 secs and then said she got it, we were right.

Don’t mess with our hobbies, we won’t mess with yours.