Ukraine, a war or a money laundering event?

@Vknid

Just because I pay someone to pour gas on the fire and don’t do it myself directly does not mean I am not partially responsible for the fire.

well the options the collective west has other than slowing Russia down without boots on the ground are basically to have boots on the ground and start a full scale war which would increase the risk of nuclear weaponry used. Not good. Second option is to roll over and not do anything and let Ukraine get occupied by an eternal shithole country. Not good. This is the best way to slow down and make Russian invasion sluggish and assist Ukraine in defending their independence.

Um no.   I can have whatever opinion I want.

of course, but your opinion is not an opinion but a false statement. I meant your statement of Zelensky not wanting to have any kind of agreement with Russia. That’s just a lie. Zelensky specificly put out his terms of ending the war. And it’s as simple as Russia kicking rocks and taking ever last of their soldier out of Ukraine and going back where they came from. Putin does not agree with this, he wants criterias which allow Russia to have Ukraine in a chokehold. Ukraine said fuck that and pushes back until either all of Ukraine is destroyed or Russia leaves. Ukrainians are proud people and would rather die than become a part of Russia again. It’s like in a hypothetical war between America and China, I highly doubt America would want peace with the criterias that China has the last word in American politics, Chinese becomes mandatory to teach in schools, the new curriculum in schools follow the distorted history teachings of China and that China would get to elect who is the president of USA and they would elect a friend of Xi Jinping.

I won’t pretend to know for a second all the geopolitical shenanigans going on with this war.  I think it is a river that runs deep and wide and has been cooking for years.  But I do feel it is not at all anywhere near as simple as Putin bad, Zelensky good.  That is gross oversimplification.

well you can simplify it like this: Ukraine corrupt and bad but trying to get rid of the post Soviet roots which are the biggest reason for the corruption there. Notice how all post soviet russia countries were corrupt shitholes for a while, gee I wonder what is the reason for that? But some of them have cut ties and prospering economically and culturally, even if it’s a slow process, like Finland and Estonia for example. Ukraine is in the stage now where they are trying to rebrand themselves and step away from soviet influence which trust me is a good thing. My country went through the same process.

Russia on the other hand don’t want that, and are forcing post soviet countries to stay within reach so they are controllable. Finland used the economicslly and militarilt weak state of Russia after the collapse of Soviet Union to escape their grip, Russia doesn’t want Ukraine to escape from their grip either. So even if Ukraine is ”bad” and corrupt, they are not fucking invading and murdering countries and their people.

And it’s an endless waltz for Russia. Study their history and you notice patterns. Throughout their history they have been a dictatorship and it’s really sad that they are full of natural resources and potential, but it’s all wasted as everytime they are prospering they end it with mindless genocide or wars and need go back to square one. Examples from recent history is their genocide of Finnish minorities after WW1, leading up to a civil war, great purge and fall of the Russian Empire, everything post WW2 culminating in the collapse of Soviet Union and now after this war, the economy and society of Russia again starts from zero. Every time they take one step forward they take three steps backwards. It won’t stop before Putin and the whole political system of Russia is dismantled.

Instead of using their resources to grow their economy and prosper they use it to war, genocides and posing fear over others. Here’s an analogy: if you have a messy yard at your home and see that your neighbour is upgrading their own yard with new technology and resources, normal people would use their resources to upgrade their own as well. Russia functions in the other way and uses their resources to buy sledgehammers and go fuck up the neighbour’s yard.

Yes, it’s already well-established that every single mass death event that the Ukrainians blame on Russia they did themselves.

How about Russia stops shooting missiles at Ukraine?

I do not speak ebonics or slang. Is Seymour Hersh Russian?
Your media said that Russia blew up the pipeline. That was clear disinfo and a lie that the entire media ran with.
The first casualty of war is the truth.

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@comicsgate for someone who yap about fake news it is mind blowing that you use Russia’s government tweets as source. Talk about spiraling down the rabbit hole of propaganda