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  • #318373

    Tit for Tat.

    Honestly the RoP trailer isn’t that bad, it just doesn’t impress as a genuine Tolkien product.

    But it pales in comparison to that HBO trailer. Still holding out until the series is finished though…I just don’t trust ’em.

    Try to keep this in mind. Great stories are born of great hardship.

    We won’t get another LOTR because the past generations struggeled so much more than we do.

    So we get the malais of modern entertainment, which is a struggle in itself! Especially if you’re a creator or a fan of quality stories.

    Here’s the good news, this is a struggle in itself. The great writers and creatives like Tolkien are out there, slaving away, unnoticed, suffering in this stupid world. And that’s where good stories come from.

    The pendulum always swings, just not as fast as we’d like it to. One things for sure, you can’t say it’s boring these days! Excited to see what the future holds, we could be on the precipice of a Renaissance.

    I don’t quite know how to quote a previous post on this forum, so I’ll just reply directly:

    Thank you. Yes, I agree, they are destroying absolutely everything we ever loved or created, and I don’t think it’s incompetence (“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action”).

    I wish I had more of a creative mind (sadly I’m an engineer), so I could help by creating our own beautiful stories to directly oppose their destruction of everything that ever was beautiful in entertainment and culture.

    I see some parallels, but mostly people saying that “we shouldn’t include right-wing (aka: Tolkien) content, but rather just non-woke stuff”, and I think that’s a losing strategy. No empire, kingdom or civilization ever survived by “just wanting to be left alone”. We need to start pushing back very hard culturally speaking, with our own beautiful stories and narratives, and that’s why I turned to this forum, in the hopes of finding help and guidance in that direction.

    I’ll have a look at the Forgotten Warrior Series by Larry Correia, thank you for the recommendation.

    #311055

    In reply to: A Christmas Carol

    Will say this, I do not know if I ever saw this one, but they play it on the radio and the recordings and songs are incredible.
    You can see why Tolkien called them Hobbits. The dancing and good cheer and clapping. They are still like that with their chants at football matches.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luMUQyVQz7w

    #307053

    From the article:

    “The initial complaint, which the group of authors filed in New York’s Southern District, claims that OpenAI copied the authors’ work by using it to train its AI tools like ChatGPT without permission. This group of lauded fiction writers isn’t the first to sue OpenAI and other AI-focused businesses.”

     

    Wanna know what’s funny? Many of these authors borrowed from their predecessors. Anyone reading some of Martin’s work would find similarities to that of Tolkien’s. So should the Tolkien Estate sue Martin? Probably but they’d have a hard time proving the case.

    All of these authors who were “inspired” by the greats now want to (justifiably) cry foul when someone (or something) else is doing it to them.

    The hypocrisy is strong with this one.

    Vknid
    Moderator

      Hollywood in general has been so biased and such a cult now for so long that I think they have chased out most people with any real talent and refuse to let anyone in unless they are part of the cult.  So at this point they are almost completely void of anyone fresh or any new ideas.  I believe this is why all the movie stars are older people now and why they do constant reboots.  It’s because they literally have nothing else.

      How do we solve it?  Let activist companies and industries like Disney and  Hollywood whither on the vine. They might not die off completely but they will shrink and lose influence.  This should naturally leave a huge vacuum in the market that will be filled by actually talented people whom are just frothing at the mouth to bring their ideas to the light of day.

      I think this is already happening if you look at how other companies are creating media now like DailyWire and Rippa.  In both cases those are new ventures in media looking to capitalize in industries where the industry leaders have fallen off their throne.

      “evil cannot create it can only corrupt” – Tolkien

      EDIT – watched your vid, holy crap that song was horrible.  I mean it’s not just annoying it is awful.  Also I really enjoyed your breakdown of modern Hollywood and how it operates today.  I think that explains a lot and I believe the reality is that is going on all over corporate America.

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      #288100
      Mustangride1
      Moderator

        Anything pre `1995 down to the 50’s’ is better than 90% of whats made today. But some of the good shows, perhaps not all in those categories would be.

        Warrior Nun

        Shadow and Bone

        Christmas Chronicles

        Dune (2022) heck even 84 was better than most stuff today

        Black Sails (do not watch with young kids around) or do if you like to freak them out

        Tudors

        The Last Kingdom

        Serpent Queen

        and there is many good Indi/fanmade floating around you just have to search it out.

        Youtube:
        One Of The Seven
        Ryhmin Films

        THE HUNT FOR GOLLUM – (Redux) Tolkien Fan Film
        Independent Online Cinema

        HORN OF GONDOR (2020) A Tolkien Fan Film
        Rosenthal z.s.

        Born of Hope – Full Movie
        Independent Online Cinema

        Thrawn Full Audio Comic Movie [Star Wars Audio Comics]
        The Lore Master

        Mustangride1
        Moderator

          These comments (roas YT) ARE PRICELESS…. Almost as good as whats happening in ALL the woke shows comment sections now. People have woke up and said ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT. Both online and at the Parks and Movie Theaters.

          Seriously Amazon paying people to watch ROP. Meta, Twitter, Disney and the list goes on of firing and lay-offs hiring freezes etc.

          I will even say in 10 years when people are saying how did it start and how did it end. The how it started will be debatable and have many answers. How it ended, well it ended when One Fandom said OH HELL NO! So many fandoms allowed it to happen, stood by and said nothing. But one fandom would not allow it, Tolkien’s fans showed the world it was ok to not just say no but to fight back.

          #286634
          Mustangride1
          Moderator

            Nope, It is what introduced me to Tolkien, I have all of the R&B movies on a flash drive dedicated to them (Well all tolkien things including youtube fan fic) NOT REPEAT NOT though the abomination of Amazon. No way it would ever go on that drive with works of true love and passion.

            #284319

            https://arkhavencomics.com/2022/10/17/avoid-like-the-plague-amazons-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power/

            Antithesis /anˈtiTHəsəs/

            Noun

            Definition – : the direct opposite.

            (1): the rhetorical contrast of ideas by means of parallel arrangements of words, clauses, or sentences (as in “action, not words” or “they promised freedom and provided slavery”)

            (2): OPPOSITION, CONTRAST the antithesis of prose and verse. The second of two opposing words, clauses, or sentences that are being rhetorically contrasted

            (3): philosophy : the second stage of a dialectical process

            Example: Amazon’s the Lord of the Rings – The Rings of Power is the very antithesis of every aspect of the author J.R.R Tolkien’s complete body of work, aesthetic principles, personal belief system and the totality of his religious faith.

            Avoid Like the Plague is my lowest rating, I’ve only given it two other times, and it takes a lot to get it. A production really has to work for it before I’m willing to put my ultimate seal of disapproval on it. I mean you got to dig deep and put your back to the wheel before I stamp that label on something. A show must do everything it can to earn it.

            And this one did just that.

            Throughout ten hours of runtime this travesty never let up in its determination to win my abject hatred for every aspect of its very existence.

            It consistently fails on so many levels that you can’t help but be fascinated by its relentless incompetence.

            This show is absolutely, and in all ways, the exact opposite of what J.R.R. Tolkien achieved with his life’s work.

            There have been other attempts to subvert Tolkien. Writers who at the core of their work were trying to write an editorial reply that would somehow disprove Truth to be found in the works of men like J.R.R. Tolkien.

            George RR Martin set out to invert the tropes that were established in the Lord of Rings, and it ended in the most hilarious series of failures of all time. At this point Martin is undoubtedly hoping he can run out the clock before he has to display the completeness of his artistic bankruptcy.

            A better example is His Dark Materials. Phillip Pullman set out to create an atheist Chronicles of Narnia. The Golden Compass has been frequently remade in films and TV. It ends in debacle every time. Read John C. Wright’s review if you want a complete evisceration by a writer who leaves me in the dust.

            But none of them come close to equaling the magnitude of the disaster that is, Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power. These attempts to present the Lie as the Truth always fail like this.

            The aesthetics of this show were the opposite of J.R.R. Tolkien’s.

            The series has been both gaudy and cheap throughout. The grand CG scenes were simply garish. There was no attempt at tasteful restraint. The ship designs were absurdist, (split sails aren’t very good at catching the wind). Except for those very few scenes of grand CG vistas (which were only in half the episodes) everything else looked like it should have been on the CW.

            The sets were either green screens or confined. The grand invasion of the Southlands was a lousy three ships because it kept the expenses (but somehow not the price) of this billion dollar production down. The costumes looked like something from a 1980s tits and sandals, straight-to-video quicky shot in Mexico.

            Despite it being twenty years older, every aspect of Jackson’s epic, from costuming, to props to CG effects look incomparable better than this ludicrously more expensive production.

            This show is also the antithesis of J.R.R. Tolkien’s belief system. Which is kind of an achievement given that it is incredibly obvious the showrunners have NO belief system of their own. A storyteller needs believe in something if he wants to get anyone to listen to his stories.

            “We had reached a point — we’d been writing movies for 10 years that should have gotten made,” McKay says. “Movies where the director was right, the cast was right, the script was right, the title was right and it was a big IP — and it still wasn’t happening.”

            Past performance doesn’t guarantee future results but it’s usually a reliable indicator. Those directors all moved on to successful projects. Their cast members got rich on other acting jobs. The IPs got made into films (although no good came from it). The only continuing element that seems consistent in this decade long parade of failure is McKay and Payne.

            Inconsistency and moral bankruptcy are the hallmarks of this show.

            In an earlier episode Elfagorn says that the Elves don’t have doctors because most wounds to their bodies heal themselves and what healing they do need must be done to the soul. Not Tolkien, but okay, whatever. Then in the 7th episode Galadriel says that Not-Sauron’s open gut wound can only be healed by Elf medicine. Which this show has explicitly stated: Does. Not. Exist.

            The show needed to get Galadriel and Not-Sauron to Eregion, and they couldn’t do it organically, so they came up with a contrivance that flatly contradicted something they already established in another episode.

            At one point Galadriel says to Not-Sauron you saved me for drowning on the raft. To which he replies, “and you saved me from drowning.” No. No, she didn’t do any such thing. At no time was Not-Sauron remotely in danger of drowning. Setups are not only completely forgotten about but frequently have payoffs that do the opposite of what the setup clearly intended.

            Granted, the first example is the kind of corner any writer can paint himself into, (although, some editing in post-production would have solved it). But there is no such excuse for the second. Two things are in play here.

            One: McKay and Payne fell in love with one cheesy line of dialog and didn’t want to give it up even though it contradicted a clear event that happened in an earlier episode.

            And two: YOU TWO DIDN’T THINK ANYONE WOULD BE STUPID ENOUGH TO WATCH ANOTHER EPISODE OF YOUR GODDAMN SHOW, DID YOU?!?!

            Unquestionably, the worst violation of Tolkien’s belief system was in the antithetical iteration of Galadriel. She was the opposite of everything Tolkien intended his heroes to be. Vain, haughty, prideful, driven by rage and determined to follow her own will.

            And she is constantly praised and validated for this.

            McKay and Payne started with the assumption that the audience would love Galadriel despite doing nothing to earn that love and in truth, behaving with malignant arrogance to every character she interacts with.

            When she arrives with the wounded Not-Sauron at Eregion, Elrond asks Galadriel, “what are you doing here?”

            She bitchily replies, “what are you doing here?”

            So far as the events of this series is concerned, she is supposed to be in Valinor and Elrond is supposed to be right there in the place their king ordered him to go. He has business being there, she doesn’t. She was specifically ordered to go somewhere else and stay there. She has no conceivable reason to be acting like he’s a hypocrite for asking a legitimate question.

            But this show assumes she is always in the right no matter the circumstances. When ordered to return to Valinor, she disobeys the lawful order. When she arrives in Númenor she breaks her word, repeatedly breaks the laws of the Kingdom and finally drags the kingdom off to a foreign war and none of that was to do good for the sake of good. It was all to satisfy the demands of her thousand year old rage against Sauron.

            When Adar is shown to hold paternal affection (we may as well call it love) for the Orcs, she threatens to torture them by dragging them out in the sunlight. She tells Adar that she will keep him alive so he can know she has killed all of his children.

            Every single action Galadriel commits in this show is evil. Yet we are expected to accept her actions as morally justified, without any justification being provided for them.

            Excusing evil is the fundamental antithesis of Lord of the Rings.

            This brings us to this series being the opposite of Tolkien’s faith.

            So, about Halbrand being Sauron?

            #TheDarkHeraldWasRight

            In the season finale Galadriel finally does what she should have done and asks for the genealogical records for the Southlands Royal family. It turns out the Royal family (that they couldn’t be bothered to give a name to the family) died out a thousand years ago.

            Galadriel uses her angry bitch-face to demand what Halbrand’s real name is. Menacing music rises and Not-Sauron replies that he has had many names, one of which is obviously Sauron. She points out that he was wearing the royal sigil of the Royal house of the Southlands. He points out that he said, “I took it off a dead man.”

            This is the one setup throughout the entire series Payne and McKay were consistent about preserving no matter what, because it was the only setup they truly cared about. Sauron never out right lied about anything. Galadriel is such an idiot she just took his half answers and built elaborate fantasies around them. But the important part is that while Sauron was deceptive, he never outright lied.

            The only reason to do this was to give Sauron credibility with the audience. When he states something as fact the audience is obliged to accept it because he’s the only one that never lied.

            Sauron then says that when Morgoth was cast into he was finally free and he just wanted to heal the world. He wants Galadriel as his queen. And that with her at his side he can keep from being totes evil.

            Sauron: You bind me to the light. And I bind you to power and together we can save this Middle Earth.

            Galadriel: Save? … Or rule?

            Sauron: I see no difference.

            Galadriel (Being fierce and brave): And that is why I will never be at your side!

            You can tell Payne and McKay were running around the writer’s room high fiving each other. They are so convinced that that this was super profound.

            This iteration of Sauron is entirely colored in shades of gray and JRR Tolkien painted that character in jet black. Sauron was in no way ever meant to be a sympathetic character. That is opposite of the authorial intent of J.R.R. Tolkien which Payne and McKay nakedly violated. It’s hardly a surprise that students of Abrams would reject the concepts of absolute good and absolute evil by claiming The Truth is always somewhere in the middle. This is the biggest lie there is. It was designed as one a very long time ago. If there is no dividing line between good and evil, it’s easy to drift into moral relativism.

            It’s easy to say, I know it’s wrong, but…

            Instead of just saying, I know it’s wrong (and a put a period right there).

            This last brings us to the series’ most fundamental problem. The moral impairment of its creators. What they believe to be morality is nothing more than fashionable aesthetics. Every single one of Karen Galadriel’s choices were dictated by her own will not what was the right thing to do. All of the worst things that happened to the Númenóreans were the direct result of her actions and the showrunners can’t see it.

            Every single event that took place in all four books of the Middle Earth books, from the death of the Great Wyrm Smaug, to the glorious restoration of the rightful king of Gondor, and finally the destruction of a fallen angel who served a evil god. None of these things would have happened had it not been for an act of mercy by Bilbo Baggins. This was Providence as addressed by Gandalf at the end of the Hobbit. “You don’t really suppose, do you, that all your adventures and escapes were managed by mere luck, just for your sole benefit?”

            In contrast, all of Karen-Galadriel’s adventures and escapes were managed by absurd contrivance. Usually, the result of some evil act she had performed. And they were unquestionably for her sole benefit. Manwëknows it never helped anyone else.

            And Sauron is presented as someone who just wanted to stay on his island paradise and create things on his forge. Galadriel pulled him away from all that with no regrets because it served to further her ends.

            In this series, Sauron is the penitent, not Galadriel.

            Consequently, the Dark Herald pronounces his Doom upon this entire wretched series.

            Avoid Amazon’s The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Like the Fucking Plague!

            #283491
            Mustangride1
            Moderator

              This episode should have been called “Farewell Good Kings”

              Oh ya spoiler, the king passes on.  I will not spoil or get to much in the plotting of this episode. It is something people should watch and really it was only ok to watch.

              This episode was hard to watch as someone who has lost and sat by them as they went from a Mountain of a Man to a feeble cancer ridden shell of what he was. Entertainment today is so lacking in things that tear at you heart. This episode wow it hurt. But hurt is a good way, a way where a person you were invested in and cared about passed on. I would say this, Have tissue, it will rip at your heart if you ever had a love one taken by a horrible disease. FUCK OFF CANCER!

              The episode started with the legitimacy of the succession of “The Lord of Tides” which was also the true title of the show. The Lord of tides has been injured (later we know killed) and the Bastards of Rhaenyra and their legitimacy is called to question and all parties are on the way to Kings Landing to have it Settled by “The Hand <Otto> of the king” as the King is on his death bed.

              We get some politicking once everyone is there. Leading up to the petition in the throne room with Otto sitting the Iron Throne. Vaemond Velaryon is the one wanting to be named in place of the Bastards. We certainly get the dialogue. It seems Otto will certainly side with him until the doors open and the bed ridden disease ridden King comes in.

              It was a long walk, one most time I would have said, to long to boring to stupid, why not just bring him in. But you understand in this He is still king and was still powerful. When he finally stumbled and his crown fell off it was Daemon there to pick it up and help him.

              As truly fucked up as Daemon can and has been, the love and respect was still there, the scene worked in spades. I appreciated it and understood it and felt the pain.

              The king sets the throne and ask why there is a question to the succession.  Rhaenys is called to settle it at which point she brings up a compromise Rhaenyra and Rhaenys had talked about earlier. To which the King seemed pleases with until Vaemond goes full retard. And when I say full retard, this dude went full on!

              Vaemond Velaryon in front of the King calls his grandchildren BASTARDS and his daughter a WHORE.  The king says he will have his tongue, but Daemon says he can keep his tongue. Granted he said it after cutting his head in half. YES, yes, I smiled with pleasure.

              We get a Dinner scene which is very nice, knowing the books I was concerned how it would go, but I enjoyed it. Love Paddy I really did, he is a father, Husband and Grandsire and just wants his family to be at peace. Before he leaves the Banquette, it appears he gets that. I am glad he gets to see them together he can rest in peace.

               

              The final scene is just that, Rest in Peace good king.

              Paddy better get a damn Emmy for this show or there is not justice left for great acting in Hollywood. Alicent I still cannot like her acting, the lines were great, she just is not believable for me. Otto was not bad in this, but he was more minimal in it. Daemon was great as always and Rhaenyra I have liked her and she is still likable.

              The kids were aged up again and actually worked well, I hate time jumps and getting around to fast as a rule, but this is done really well and they remember to show things that will make it believable. Someone sat down clearly after GOT and said ((Find all the things we fucked up in GOT and make sure it cannot and does not happen again))

              There was some things I have to take away from this episode. Alicent and her son’s conversation after his raping a servant girl was just so cringe to me. Also, some of the politicking in the Throne room before the king arrived.

              I will give it an 8 out of 10.  I did a second watch this morning, so the onions were not so potent, and emotions did not cloud my judgement because I wanted to drop a 9.5 last night. But on second watch those scenes still bothered me enough to ding it.

              All in all an outstanding performance by Paddy Constantine. Matt Smith says more in actions and his looks than he does words. I find myself wanting to see them as kids together.

              I will again compare this show to the abortion amazon is conduction on Tolkien. I could have taken every act of this episode, even the ones I did not like, and had more information and progression with plot and character growth, than all of a BILLION DOLLAR ABORTION from Rings of Amazon.

               

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              #281560
              Mustangride1
              Moderator

                Narsil the Sword of Kings.

                Many only know the story of Narsil / Andúril, from the Lord of the Rings by Peter Jackson. However, there is much more to the story than it was just the sword of Isildur.

                The sword was forged in the First Age of Middle Earth by the Dwarven Blacksmith Telchar, considered to be one of the greatest blacksmiths of the age with only Fëanor and Celebrimbor being the greatest of the time.

                The sword is a long-sword, with a two-handed grip, “the sword of Elendil filled Orcs and Men with fear, for it shone with the light of the sun and of the moon, and it was named Narsil.” <J.R.R Tolkien from the Silmarillion>

                `I was the herald of Gil-galad and marched with his host. I was at the Battle of Dagorlad before the Black Gate of Mordor, where we had the mastery: for the Spear of Gil-galad and the Sword of Elendil, Aiglos and Narsil, none could withstand. I beheld the last combat on the slopes of Orodruin, where Gil-galad died, and Elendil fell, and Narsil broke beneath
                him; but Sauron himself was overthrown, and Isildur cut the Ring from his hand with the hilt-shard of his father’s sword, and took it for his own.’ <Lord Elrond, Lord of the Rings></blockquote>
                He also created with Narsil its companion knife Angrist, Angrist means “Iron-cutter”, from ang (“iron”) and ris (“to cut”) as well as the Dragon Helm of Dor-Lomin. We know little about him except he lived in the first age near year 265 of the First Age ad that is when the Dragon Glaurung appeared and Dor-lomin was created shortly after that.

                Despite many people associating Aragorns knife from Lord of the Rings to Angrist, we have no proof of that in Tolkien’s Writings.

                Narsil was taken to Númenor where it was the property of the Lords of the Andúnië. Eventually it was passed on the Elendil Andúnië. Elendil was killed alongside Gil-galad fighting Sauron in the War of the Last Alliance. The sword was broken in two pieces (not the many we saw in Lord of the rings) This is when Isildur picked up the sword and cut the Ring of Sauron’s hand defeating him.

                After the Battle the sword was taken to Rivendell by Isidor’s squire “Ohtar” who commanded him to escape if he could from the disaster at the Gladden Fields. Ohtar did make it to Rivendell where he the Elves passed it to the next king “Valandil”

                Little is known of Narsil during the third age other than it was passed down the line of Isildur in the Dúnedain of the North, until it came in to Aragorn’s possession at which time, he left it in Rivendell with Lord Elron.
                This my friends is when Peter Jackson diverged from the books on the sword, many know the movie and see the sword being reforged by Lord Elrond before The Battle of Pelennor Fields. But in the books we have it being reforged before the fellowship leaves Rivendell.
                <blockquote>`For the rest, they shall represent the other Free Peoples of the
                World: Elves, Dwarves, and Men. Legolas shall be for the Elves; and Gimli son of Gluin for the Dwarves. They are willing to go at least to the passes of the Mountains, and maybe beyond. For men you shall have Aragorn son of Arathorn, for the Ring of Isildur concerns him closely.’

                Strider!' said Frodo.
                'Yes,' he said with a smile. 

                I ask leave once again to be your companion, Frodo.’
                `I would have begged you to come,’ said Frodo, ‘only I thought you were going to Minas Tirith with Boromir.’
                I am,' said Aragorn.And the Sword-that-was-Broken shall be reforged ere I set out to war.

                The Sword of Elendil was forged anew by Elvish smiths, and on its blade was traced a device of seven stars set between the crescent Moon and the rayed Sun, and about them was written many runes; for Aragorn son of Arathorn was going to war upon the marches of Mordor. Very bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, and its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West. <Lord of the Rings the Fellowship of the Ring>

                The rest the story you know, Aragorn did indeed wield the sword to victory and as king, when he perished it was past down through his lines.

                If you will now, bear with me as I give you some fan-fiction as someone whom loves Tolkien and understands what he was doing with his writings. That is to say giving England a history.

                 

                 

                #280686

                In reply to: meme

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                Lord Of The cRINGeS

                 

                Tolkien is spinning in his grave
                Amazon’s ‘woke’ Lord Of The Rings extravaganza is a $1 billion production. It might be widely watched, but so far it has received a lot of thumbs down and Amazon is now banning many of those negative reviews. It appears they are trying to protect their investment.

                I read Tolkein’s three volume LOTR work twice in my younger days. It made quite an impression on me when I first read it while in high school. I remember trying to draw Boromir from my imagination. It wasn’t very good, but I’ve improved with years of practice. Apparently dramatic writing hasn’t improved—at least the script for the LOTR on Amazon hasn’t. I have no plans to watch it—especially after reading some of the reviews including this one from The Daily Mail, which gave it one star out of five:

                “Turkey is not the word. No turkey, however bloated and stupid, could ever be big enough to convey the mesmerizing awfulness of Amazon’s billion dollar Tolkien epic. This is a disaster dragon – plucked, spatchcocked, with a tankerload of Paxo stuffed up its fundament, roasted and served with soggy sprouts. The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power is so staggeringly bad, it’s hilarious. Everything about it is ill-judged to a spectacular extreme. The cliche-laden script, the dire acting, the leaden pace, the sheer inconsistency and confusion as it lurches between styles – where do we start?”

                The women are made into super heroes due to feminism. The white males are made weak and ineffective. They also must have inclusivity, so there will be black dwarves, hobbits, and elves, and I have no problem with that. However, I heard they will also introduce the usual prideful rainbow-ism. I don’t care if anyone is gay, but it’s not part of Tolkein’s vision. In his work, men are able to be friends with other men without suspicion of something ulterior going on. Likewise with the women. Maybe they’ll introduce a gay Balrog or something. How about a trans-orc?

                Regardless, woke-ism tends to turn all it touches into garbage. It’s really nothing more than cultural Marxism, which has destruction as its core goal. It doesn’t care if it’s entertaining or not.

                — Ben Garrison

                 

                #280485

                Just Some Guy. He’s very knowledgeable of Tolkien.

                #280238
                Mustangride1
                Moderator

                  Please no Meme’s, no linking to outside Content Creators etc. Put your Opinion and your words to this topic.

                  This is NOT Tolkien in any way shape or form.

                  The Lady Galadriel was NEVER “Xena Warrior Princess” Never Happened. Unrecognizable from anything from the works of Tolkien. The have written her and portraying her as “Angry, Young, Naive, Rough and Ready but more earthly and less godly” Oh yes, I saw that article. By this time she was thousands of years old and had already stood-up to her Uncle, one of the most powerful beings to ever live and tell him no, NOT ONCE but 3 times. Because she could look in the hears of people and see what kind of person they were.

                  The portrayal of all the Elves was so wrong, they looked like they could been plucked strait out of the Salons of Hollywood with the fresh hair cuts and make-up. Not once did any of them look like elves as described by Professor Tolkien.

                  The Dwarves were the bright point, well unless you want to stop and understand DWARF WOMEN HAVE BEARDS! And these did not. They sure did not look like Dwarfs as described, and Disa’s fake accent was just cringe worthy. The men did and the set looked OK and for a Billion-dollar show, set pieces should not just look ok.

                  Sauron, I mean Halbrand and Galadriel on the raft, I literally asked people with me where the child with the map on her back was! It looked so much like Water World; I asked that question.

                  The Meteor man, I mean Gandalf, was horrible. Did y’all notice the ground was red hot and yet we have Discount hobbits that are standing and sitting on it and no burns, no cloths catching fire from the extreme heat. And OMG the sign language from Discount Hobbit to Gandalf what! By the way, that is NOT how the wizards came to Middle Earth. That was a deliberate call back to the Comet from Game of Thrones.

                  I will not even get in to the Diversity and Inclusion, policy of Amazon’s that put character in this show that were and could not have ever been in Tolkien’s world. But I will point out in his own words why they cannon or should not be in this show.

                  From Letter 131 to Milton Waldmen
                  “I had a mind to make a body of more or less connected legend, ranging from the large and cosmogonic, to the level of romantic fairy-story-the larger founded on the lesser in contact with the earth, the lesser drawing splendour from the vast backcloths – which I could dedicate simply to: to England; to my country. It should possess the tone and quality that I desired, somewhat cool and clear, be redolent of our ‘air’ (the clime and soil of the North West, meaning Britain and the hither parts of Europe: not Italy or the Aegean, still less the East), and, while possessing (if I could achieve it) the fair elusive beauty that some call Celtic (though it is rarely found in genuine ancient Celtic things), it should be ‘high’, purged of the gross, and fit for the more adult mind of a land long now steeped in poetry.” J. R. R. TOLKIEN.

                  Ladies and Gentlemen, what you watched from Amazon was NOT the works of Professor Tolkien, it was them using a name of a well known Movie, Author and Books to get you to tune and view a product that was inferior in every way. It was a Bait and Switch, as this had nothing to do with Tolkien except for the names of some of the characters. In fact id added many characters never in his books and certainly never described by him.

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